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    Quote Originally Posted by DougC-3 View Post
    I'm sure this has been said before, but I hadn't picked up on it. One more thing making it collectible and harder to resist.
    I didn't know, this is the first time I heard it. That is awesome! CPM-CruWear Millie, come to me already!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FCM415 View Post
    I didn't know, this is the first time I heard it. That is awesome! CPM-CruWear Millie, come to me already!
    What makes CPM CruWear better or special over regular CruWear?

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    Study up on the CPM process.

    Start with this. http://www.crucibleservice.com/esele...eralpart3.html

    I was looking forward to it regardless. Cruwear, it seems has improved wear resistance and toughness over D2 but with less chromium so less corrosion resistance. Now with the powdered metallurgy we get a cleaner steel with finer carbides which should translate to improved performance across the board.

    Edit: Plenty of Spyderco's knives use powdered steels. Not sure what steels like S90v and M390 would be like without the process. I can explain CPM Cruwear's potential advantage this way: I like 154CM, but I love CPM154.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Glesser View Post
    HI PC,

    Thanx for the kind words. Eric is in charge of flippers and I know he has some more in-the-works.



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    More flippers in the works eh? I'm not even into flippers per se but Spyderco has a way with things. I like my Southard AND Domino... Do your thing Eric
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    Quote Originally Posted by FCM415 View Post
    I didn't know, this is the first time I heard it. That is awesome! CPM-CruWear Millie, come to me already!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FCM415 View Post
    Study up on the CPM process.

    Start with this. http://www.crucibleservice.com/esele...eralpart3.html

    I was looking forward to it regardless. Cruwear, it seems has improved wear resistance and toughness over D2 but with less chromium so less corrosion resistance. Now with the powdered metallurgy we get a cleaner steel with finer carbides which should translate to improved performance across the board.

    Edit: Plenty of Spyderco's knives use powdered steels. Not sure what steels like S90v and M390 would be like without the process. I can explain CPM Cruwear's potential advantage this way: I like 154CM, but I love CPM154.
    Not sure that that quantity of alloying material is possible to add without the CPM process too.
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    Yeah just used those steels as an example of powder metallurgy and why we like them. Didnt mean to get scientific with steel. That is not my strong point
    Upcoming: N5 CF/S110v, N5 LWT, DragonFly SB, Marcin Slysz Bowie, Farid Mehr K2, Peter Carey Rubicon, Gayle Bradley Fixed Blade, Phil Wilson Sprig, Mule Team 4V

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCM415 View Post
    Yeah just used those steels as an example of powder metallurgy and why we like them. Didnt mean to get scientific with steel. That is not my strong point
    Haha, you and me.
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    I'm excited about this Millie being the first production knife made with CPM Cruwear, and I've been a little confused about the details. Sal and Joe (The Mastiff) were discussing it on the other forum, so I (apparently lacking the gene for embarrassment) asked if one of them would explain it in "slow English" using words of one syllable or less, for us steel noobs

    Well, Sal did just that!! What an accommodating man!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Glesser View Post
    Crucible decided to make a billet of Cruwear using the powdered process rather than the normal ingot process. Niagara was going to roll it. The powdered process Cruwear has never been used in a production knife and is not a well known blade steel. We had it rolled for Military thickness. Niagara said that we were the first company using it in a production knife, so I shared that info because I thought Joe would appreciate that particular formula in a powdered steel.

    Cruwear is another name for a steel available long ago called Vascowear. Some steel junky's like Joe (Mastiff) and I remember enjoying the steel back when Gerber made knives with it. Joe has been nagging us to make something with the steel for years.

    Hope that helps.

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    He tested the hardness of the one he's been carrying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Glesser View Post
    Mine tested at 61.1

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougC-3 View Post
    He tested the hardness of the one he's been carrying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FCM415 View Post
    Study up on the CPM process.

    Start with this. http://www.crucibleservice.com/esele...eralpart3.html

    I was looking forward to it regardless. Cruwear, it seems has improved wear resistance and toughness over D2 but with less chromium so less corrosion resistance. Now with the powdered metallurgy we get a cleaner steel with finer carbides which should translate to improved performance across the board.

    Edit: Plenty of Spyderco's knives use powdered steels. Not sure what steels like S90v and M390 would be like without the process. I can explain CPM Cruwear's potential advantage this way: I like 154CM, but I love CPM154.
    Good reading. The most important thing I get out of it is:

    Advantages of CPM

    For the End User:

    • Higher Alloy Grades Available
    • Improved Wear Resistance
    • Improved Toughness (less chipping)
    • Consistent Tool Performance
    • Good Grindability (on resharpening)

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    I think this qualifies....


    Quote Originally Posted by sal View Post
    As I understand, Eric is working on a new Chinook, probably with a caged ball lock. Any suggetions would be appreicated at this stage of development.

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    Holy Snikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sal View Post
    As I understand, Eric is working on a new Chinook, probably with a caged ball lock. Any suggetions would be appreicated at this stage of development.

    sal
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    Beat you by 8 minutes
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    Wow... a Chinook with CBBL! Would that be like my Manix2 and Persian had a baby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sal View Post
    Hi Veloweave,

    I usuallyhave a small knife with me, Manbug ZDP today. Eric and I are usually carrying and testing prptotypes. Today we are testing the Native Light weight.

    sal
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    "We received some CPM-4V, enough to make a Mule Team.

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    Saw this over on BF, pretty excited if this comes out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invective View Post
    "We received some CPM-4V, enough to make a Mule Team.

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    Saw this over on BF, pretty excited if this comes out!
    Will this be the 14 which was missed iirc or the 18 ? any heads would be appreciated .
    The 18 I can't miss what so ever !.

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