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    Spyderco Forum Registered User zenheretic's Avatar
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    6/2 Urban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Glesser View Post
    Thanx for the plug Soupah. Unfortunately the "Pride" is no longer being produced.

    The original concept was to make a "legal anywhere" folder that could be sold in airports worldwide. Like the spoons.

    We designed the model, tooled up, made many country flags and while the first production run was in process, 9/11 happened and knife bans on planes followed. The project was scrapped.

    We do have a new version called the "Urban" scheduled for later this year. It is slightly smaller than the UKPK (which is legal in most countries) with plans for variety of handle color and material as well as 4 blade shapes. It is a one hand open, slip-joint (notch-joint) folder with a 2.6" blade.

    The Urban was designed and is being produced to serve that "legal anywhere" (no schools or federal bldgs) need, which many of us that travel, have.

    Apologies for my shameless plug

    sal
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    Hi Bayoublaster,

    Sorry, no pics yet. the protos are still too far removed from the finished piece.

    Hi Emre,

    regarding the safety issue. It's pretty hard to cut yourself that way if you hold the knife as it was designed to be held. We employ a large finger choil between the handle and the blade. The index finger is placed in the finger choil. If the blade begins to close, your index finger stops blade motion before in can cut you. We also have a half way stop in the open/close rotation. We're very safety concious.

    There are many places in the world, such as the UK, where locking blades are not legal to carry. We developed the UK pen knife with the British Blade forumites for safe, legal hi-performance carry in the UK.

    But the UKPK seems to still be a tad long (3") and the black color (soon to be changed) is still intimidating. This information was the result of many Brits carrying and using the knife in the UK.

    It's interesting to note that the Brits said they weren't as enamored with the UK flag as "we Americans". We found that true elswhere as well. Perhaps, a bad marketing call on my part in the original plan to use country flags

    So we developed the "Urban". A little smaller, no black. 2.6" is a good working size. We can easily grind it down if needed, but easier, (and cheaper) to work with makers like MSCantrell or STR and grind off .1 of a blade (from the spine). The large majority of our customer base worldwide is not limited to 2.5", and I doubt they'd lock you up for the .1 ". You also have a choice of blade shapes, so a less intimidating blade shape can be selected.

    The "Urban" was developed as a result of working with the "Pride" and the "UKPK". It is the next "refinement" in the genre.

    sal
    handle length

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    3-7/16" (88mm)

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    VG-10, as the basic steel.


    We have had a few requests for a damascus or damasteel blade.

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    6/2 airborne knife http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28340

    Quote Originally Posted by sal
    We just received the prototype in H1.

    sal
    Quote Originally Posted by sal
    Hi Wouter,

    The scales will be FRN formed with texture like the E4/D4. Haven't decided on a color yet. The sheath will also be FRN and will match the scale color.

    G-10 significantly increases the price, and we're trying to keep it reasobable for the troops. If needed, perhaps for extreme environments, we could make G-10 variations.

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    It Lives!!!

    04/06/07 (dd/mm/yy) from:
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    Quote Originally Posted by sal
    We have not abandoned the Lil' Temperance. The design has been refined. It's a little thinner (Sorry, Westfork). The bumps have been smoothed to permit more grip potential.

    The model was disco'd for lack of a good maker. We had planned to make it in Golden, but we're pretty busy right now.

    I will be speaking to a maker with the capability and capacity shortly.
    While we're on the subect:

    6AL4V Titanium
    G-10 (color?)
    Carbon Fiber
    Aluminum
    Stainless Steel
    FRN (3D or flat)
    Other

    Please let me know first and second choice.

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    6/16 dyad maybe in H1...
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=480418

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Glesser View Post
    Hi 3G.

    That was my thought, and some have also requested one. We're doing the finishing refinement on the design at this time.

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    H1 Dyad

    Sweeeet.

    http://spyderco.com/forums/showthrea...t=27820&page=2

    Quote Originally Posted by sal
    The two bladed byrd model is called "Wings". As JD mentioned, "Dyad" is a Spyderco name.

    The H-1 Dyad is a bit smaller than the old C44.

    Can't say much more than that at this time.

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    Just saw this.
    Quote Originally Posted by sal
    As Wouter mentioned,

    There will be an 83mm version of both and the Samaraitan (Vallotin / Diskin design) and the Citadel.

    Probably the fall for the 83mm Citadel and early next year for the 83mm Samaritan.

    We are planning export of the models.

    There is also an 80mm "not named yet" model that Eric designed.

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    C112P&S Micro Dyad present and future:

    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...79#post4767779

    Actually we worked quite a bit on trying to make is as thin and light as possible as it will be carried without a clip. Quite a bit of design refinement and mfg refinement required to built it. Even the skeletonized scales were a challenge.

    Sorry to those not pleased, we do our best.

    It's a new knife with all new problems. It's also a very small knife so the makers haved to put on their "tiny hands" just to build them.

    We'll be building 1500 total through out the year. Next years model will have Black Mother of pearl scales. Again 1500 only.

    Should be legal just about anywhere (even New York), may UK? No airplanes or schools. NKP friendly (Non-Knife-People).

    We thought of it as an elegant small knife solution with dual locking blades, natural scales and first class blade steel. I guess we'll "hide-'n-watch" reaction.

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    Regarding the design and origins of the Native:

    A company came to us in the mid 90's and asked us to design a knife that would appeal to the Wal-Mart customer. They offered to build and inventory the large amounts needed to be able to work with Wal-Mart.

    I spent a fair amount of time in Wal-mart watching customers of knives and speaking with them as to their preferences. The Native design was the result of that investigation.
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    8/11 Why a liner lock for the Military?

    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...=1#post4821341

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Glesser View Post
    The linerlock can be made lighter. Especially in the mid 90's when the knife was first designed. We also made the model with an open back for easy rinsing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sal
    We have a Foliage green G-10 Endura and Delica in the works.

    sal
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Cook
    sprint or full production?
    Quote Originally Posted by sal
    Haven't decided.

    We have so many variations now of the Endura and Delica that adding more is dificult. OTOH, we'd hate to limit a model to a Sprint if it has large market appeal. I think the higher cost will limit sales.

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    I'm an admirer of Spyderco's designs. Using them is like immersing yourself in music or studying a painting in a museum. I buy some "fine" art but my preference is for usable art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sal View Post
    When we introduced the version, it was considered an "upgrade". The market didn't want any part of it no matter how we made it (full flat, saber, liners, no liners, etc).

    We have a P2 designed. The maker didn't want to use the ball bearing lock so it will have a mid-back-lock. Once (if?) the design is refined a bit and the "real world" accepts it, we'll play with other locks.

    sal
    ...and (Personal note: Hope Endura is one of the contenders for the lock)

    Quote Originally Posted by sal View Post
    Hi Flyguy,

    The ball lock with the cage (like the P'kal) is one we're developing for the Golden factory. We're currently considering which models would benefit from the lock change.

    sal

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    How about bringing back the Matriarch in foliage green.
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    Urban 8/29/07
    http://www.britishblades.com/forums/...ighlight=Urban
    Thanx Col,

    Hope you enjoy.

    The "Urban" is a 2.5" blade version of the UK. Seems these British blokes said the UK was too big and tactical (black)......after all that work

    So we are making the "Urban" to please. smaller, scales will be: Foliage Green G-10, bright orange G-10 (another demand from the Brits), then we'll work on a bolstered version and an FRN version.

    4 different blades, all mix 'n match.

    Colin has the first prototype.

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    From bladeforums regarding the Military "2".

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Glesser
    We will no doubt drilll a bazillion holes in it and make it a 4 way clip.

    We will probably use a different lock on the "2" model, not sure which one. Between a Compression-Lock, Ball bearing / Cage, or the new "Stop-Lock".

    If we use larger liners, they will be nested and drilled. We wouldn't want to maker it any heavier. The size / weight ratio is a main feature of the design.

    We will probably run the "2" along side of the original for a while.

    We're open to any suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sequimite View Post
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    I'm an admirer of Spyderco's designs. Using them is like immersing yourself in music or studying a painting in a museum. I buy some "fine" art but my preference is for usable art.
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    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=496422

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    Oh come on with it already! LOL. I have a bad enough itch to buy a Millie. If they don't bring out the upgraded one soon, I'll have to buy one of each. Sounds like a conspidercy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenheretic View Post


    I like this one, my favourite

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    Don't really know right now if this is any news at all, but here u go:

    about the Byrd Crossbill:

    FYI, we do have a fully serrated version planned for the future, Also in G-10.

    sal

    cited from:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murdoc View Post
    Don't really know right now if this is any news at all, but here u go:

    about the Byrd Crossbill:
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=497297
    Yep that counts; good work!
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    Talking even more salty goodness...

    Quote Originally Posted by sal View Post
    Hi NativeAmerican,

    We have a fair number of H1 models already in production with more in the works. At a certain point, we will more than likely reach capacity.

    Then it will be a matter of which models to make.

    Salt1 (clip/DP) - Pacific (clip/DP)- Atlantic (sheepfoot) - Saver (sheepfoot)- Tasman (hawkbill) currently in production.

    We 8 more H1 models in the works that are yet to come out.

    Steak knives can be made of many other materials and still work well. Corrosion is not a major problem with steak knives as it is with work / sport knives that are in water a great deal.

    sal
    Ok, let's see if I'm missing anything we know of:

    -Schempp Camp knife
    -Caspian Salt (sharp tip)
    -Caspian Salt (blunt tip)
    -Aqua Salt Yellow
    -Aqua Salt Black

    Assuming that each of these are considered separate "models" that leaves 3. Let's not forget this post either
    Quote Originally Posted by sal View Post
    The two bladed byrd model is called "Wings". As JD mentioned, "Dyad" is a Spyderco name.

    The H-1 Dyad is a bit smaller than the old C44.


    Can't say much more than that at this time.

    sal
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