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    Native in CPM-125V !!!

    Sal dixit today:

    We currently working on the solid ZDP Delica, I guess the next on our list is CPM-125V, Native format.
    Excellent news.


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    What's the buzz on CPM-125V?
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    Is this going to be a Native III (Japan) or Native I (usa)?

    Well, either way hopefully it won't have a black handle.

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    Any other info on the Native? Other specs? Changes (liners, handle material, color)?

    I hope Sal pops in to elaborate some on the plans.
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    Magic:
    Is this going to be a Native III (Japan) or Native I (usa)?
    Since CPM-125V is a US steel, I guess it would be a FRN Native I. Perhaps withe nested liners?
    Well, color would be certainly non-black, but I don't care much for color.
    125V is an extreme edge-keeper. Better then 10V.

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    I'm planning the current USA made Native. Since there are no additional tooling expenses, we can get the piece to the steel junkies for a realistic price.

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    Count me in as a certified steel junkie Sal! But then I am sure you were aware of that!

    The Native is one of my all time Fav Spydies... CPM 125V...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sal
    I'm planning the current USA made Native. Since there are no additional tooling expenses, we can get the piece to the steel junkies for a realistic price.

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    Sal, I'm glad to hear that my favorite Spydie (the Native) is chosen for the new steel!
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    Cpm-125v

    I'm out of touch. I've never heard of CPM-125V. Can anyone shed some light. Rockwell? Toughness? Stain resistance? etc... Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJK
    I'm out of touch. I've never heard of CPM-125V. Can anyone shed some light. Rockwell? Toughness? Stain resistance? etc... Thanks.

    That makes two of us
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    This is cool news.

    I'm glad that the Native is not being discontinued.


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    Thumbs up

    Great news for the steel junkies
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    Wow this is great, any idea on when it is to be released, might hold off to buy a native 1 and wait for this new one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco G
    125V is an extreme edge-keeper. Better then 10V.
    America's answer to ZDP-189? Am not familiar with 10V either, so the question becomes how do either/both compare to S30V or VG10? Characteristics like "extreme edge-keeper" always sound good, but often seem to be accompained by some less-than-desirable trait, like "extremely expensive" or "extremely hard to sharpen". So the question arises, is there a downside to it and, if so, what is the downside?
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    I think the natives are great I will be sure to get one.
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    Question Question ?!?

    BTW, congratz Jeff! (I saw your 5k thread...figured you would be reading this one.) Its been a while...glad to check in now and then and see whatsup. I've always gotta chime in on these Spyderco Native threads! I'll take a # on the steel question at hand. I would like to know if Sal and company plan on doing a different handle material for the newer native in the works or at least give us a color variant to the FRN *coughDarkForestGreencough* (blue, red/burgandy, grey, and yellow don't appeal) and tan is good to keep for the special edition natives. I vote green FRN or G10...what do you all vote? Any possibilities on this Sal??? Native Fans would like to know...pretty please with Jeff Smith on top!

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    It is always a great laugh for me to read with what kind of casual air Sal is dropping these bombshells .

    Got to have one of those for sure!

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    wow! CPM-125V!
    what is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.v
    wow! CPM-125V!
    what is that?
    Got me I.V.

    Even Crucible's descriptions of some of these "super steels" are not particularly helpful. They were all created for other applications, and the "official" literature focuses on their primary uses. The relationship between what makes a superior flow control nozzle and what a superior knife blade is neither explained nor obvious.

    The names tell you nothing, 3V, 10V, 125V, or at least tell me nothing. Logic dictates they must have different characteristics, indiviual strong points and indiviual weaknesses. Question now becomes what are those points. Rightly or wrongly I firmly believe that if any one thing were perfect, everyone would be flocking to it, whether it be a steel, a handle material, or whatever.
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    ha ha! so we need to use and review the blades! Cutting edge baby!
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