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Nifty_Nives
10-08-2009, 04:16 PM
Is it fake? i dont know, but to me, it looks like it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SPYDERCO-PERSIAN-C105BMP-KNIFE-DISCONTINUED_W0QQitemZ250507345805QQcmdZViewItemQQ ptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a5366bf8d

supmonkeyface
10-08-2009, 04:17 PM
Nope, looks legit to me. Great price might I add.

Nifty_Nives
10-08-2009, 04:28 PM
Nope, looks legit to me. Great price might I add.

take a look at the third pic... whats up with the logo? its a little unusual of a designed logo for spyderco, so that, and the knife shape got me wondering.

yablanowitz
10-08-2009, 04:37 PM
The third pic shows the Ed Schempp logo on the back side of the blade. Ed has designed quite a few knives with Sal and his logo appears on all of them as far as I know. The only thing wrong with that auction that I can see is the C105P Mini Persian is not yet discontinued or hard to find. They are currently in stock at the SFO online. The C83P full-size Persian is discontinued and it is rather scarce, but the Mini is still around.

Nifty_Nives
10-08-2009, 05:10 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Spyderco-NIB-Shabaria-w-G10-Discontinued-BIG-NASTY_W0QQitemZ330366525118QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item4ceb611ebe

I may not know much, but im PRETTY sure spyderco doesnt make a knife anything like this.

cosmo7809
10-08-2009, 08:30 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Spyderco-NIB-Shabaria-w-G10-Discontinued-BIG-NASTY_W0QQitemZ330366525118QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item4ceb611ebe

I may not know much, but im PRETTY sure spyderco doesnt make a knife anything like this.

They do, a simple google search will pretty much sum up what is fake or not.... *not always though*

yablanowitz
10-08-2009, 09:21 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Spyderco-NIB-Shabaria-w-G10-Discontinued-BIG-NASTY_W0QQitemZ330366525118QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item4ceb611ebe

I may not know much, but im PRETTY sure spyderco doesnt make a knife anything like this.

You need to search the forum for "ethnic series". The Shabaria was several years back, but it is genuine.

Jay_Ev
10-09-2009, 05:29 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Spyderco-NIB-Shabaria-w-G10-Discontinued-BIG-NASTY_W0QQitemZ330366525118QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item4ceb611ebe

I may not know much, but im PRETTY sure spyderco doesnt make a knife anything like this.

You're partially correct... they don't make that... anymore :D

ozspyder
10-09-2009, 05:46 AM
The first one is a MINI Persian at $115 it is a fair(ish) price currently. If you look around a bit more you can find a few under the $100 mark. I have a few Mini Persians and a fair few more of the Large Persian :p The Large Persian is discontinued, the Mini Persian is still in production. As mentioned this is not a fake - Ed Schempp the designer has a wheat sheaf as his makers mark and it can be found on the obverse/ reverse side of the knife. Ed's designs include the Kris, Barong, Khukri amongst a few others in his Spyderco collaborations.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r152/datan070973/cutlery/Spyderco/Persian/DSC_0506.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r152/datan070973/cutlery/Spyderco/Persian/DSC_0044.jpg

The Shabaria is part of the Spyderco 'ethnic series' of knives. Designed by Eduard Bradichansky (sp ?) who also designed the Spydercard. Great knife but not to everyone's taste. Very slim handles - the version shown in the link is a CE config. The PE one was also available and fetches a bit more. Both the CE & PE versions have long been discontinued.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r152/datan070973/cutlery/Spyderco/Shabaria/DSC_4999.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r152/datan070973/cutlery/Spyderco/Shabaria/DSC_1846.jpg

Peter1960
10-09-2009, 06:19 AM
Hi Nifty_Nives,

If you continue do watch Ebay you will dig out a lot of collaboration models from Spyderco. For general information here is a list:

# C15 Bob Terzuola
# C16 Wayne Goddard
# C18 Wayne Goddard Jr.
# C19 Bob Terzuola Jr.
# C20 Baby Wayne Goddard
# C22 Michael Walker
# C25 Frank Centofante
# C27 Jess Horn
# C34 Jess Horn II
# C37 Michael Walker Lightweight
# C38 Jess Horn Lightweight
# C40 Jot Singh Khalsa
# C42 Howard Viele
# C46 Bob Lum
# C48 Tim Wegner
# C49 Tim Wegner Jr.
# C50 Frank Centofante II
# C53 Peter Herbst
# C55 Bob Terzuola Starmate
# C56 Tim Zowada
# C57 D'Alton Holder Toad
# C58 JD Smith
# C59 Eduard Bradichansky Shabaria
# C60 Massad Ayoob
# C63 James A. Keating Chinook
# C65 Bob Lum Chinese Folder
# C66 Frank Centofante Vesuvius
# C68 Bram Frank Gunting
# C73 Ed Scott Impala
# C76 25th Anniversary Delica
# C83 Ed Schempp Persian Folder
# C84 Warren Thomas Karambit
# C85 Yojimbo
# C94 UK Penknife (DK Penknife)
# C96 SpyKer
# C97 Howard Viele II
# C99 Volpe
# C102 Dialex Adventure
# C103 P'Kal
# C104 Ed Schempp Kris
# C105 Ed Schempp Persian 75mm
# C110 Chad Los Banos Lava
# C111 Jason Breeden Captain
# C114 Howard Viele Phoenix
# C115 Ralph Turnbull T-Mag
# C124 Ed Schempp Barong
# C125 Ed Schempp Khukuri
# C126 Anso Rock Lobster
# C128 Kevin Wilkins Leaf Storm
# C131 Terzuola Slipit

More information: Spydiewiki.com (http://spydiewiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)

Pictures and short description: spydie.nl (http://www.spydie.nl/)

Happy Reading :)

bh49
10-09-2009, 07:52 AM
To some degree seller is correct. The knife on the picture has a gold bug, current production has it black. I am not sure how many pieces were made with gold bug, not many. If somebody is Persian crazy (like me), than C105 with gold bug is must have and $115 may be not bad. For somebody who needs just any Lil Persian, can get it on e-bay around $85. (IIRC the last was sold for $76, I almost bought it).

The Deacon
10-09-2009, 07:59 AM
To some degree seller is correct. The knife on the picture has a gold bug, current production has it black. I am not sure how many pieces were made with gold bug, not many. If somebody is Persian crazy (like me), than C105 with gold bug is must have and $115 may be not bad. For somebody who needs just any Lil Persian, can get it on e-bay around $85. (IIRC the last was sold for $76, I almost bought it).Exactly! The gold bug version didn't last too long. So, if you're a collector who wants all the variants of Ed's Persian, then it's a "must have" item and, if you "need" one, that price would be well within reason.

CombatGrappler
10-09-2009, 09:37 AM
Well, he was partially right about the Shabaria. The auction says "G-10" and the handle was Micarta when it was being made.

Simmer down, Nifty, and do some browsing on this site www.spydie.nl

supermatch38sa
10-12-2009, 02:00 PM
You're partially correct... they don't make that... anymore :D

Thatīs the best answer Jay!!!! :D
BTW I love that banana!!!
Regards:
Jose