View Full Version : What is that "1 of 4 Prototype"?
LorenzoL
08-20-2009, 01:12 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/SPYDERCO-Prototype-1of4-3-5-Blade-Folding-Knife-Japan_W0QQitemZ330353696367QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item4cea9d5e6f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
The Deacon
08-20-2009, 01:22 PM
Not sure. IIRC, unless I'm mixing up my pawnbrokers, that seller was, at one time one of the major players here and had a knack for acquiring some very unusual stuff. Then again, if it was him, I'd think he'd list it with a lot more description and provenance, and at a much higher starting price. As it stands, I'd be very hesitant to bid on it, but equally hesitant to outright label it a fraud. This one definitely needs a "yea or nay" from Sal or Kristi.
LorenzoL
08-20-2009, 01:34 PM
I am not even aware that Spyderco used the "1 of XX" label on its blades...
The Deacon
08-20-2009, 01:45 PM
http://paulberetta.com/Forum%20Knives/images/2001_bladefourms_native_ce.jpg
They've also used the "XXX of YYY" format...
http://paulberetta.com/Forum%20Knives/images/2002_spyderco_forum_vesuvius.jpg
They've also, at least once, released knives "into the wild" marked as Spyderco Prototype...
http://paulberetta.com/images/knives3/ocelots_2.jpg
None of which is to say the knife in that auction is legit. It's just to point out that Spyderco blade markings are so inconsistent that it's difficult to label one as fraudulent.
But, in spite of all that, my gut still says it's as queer as a three dollar bill.
LorenzoL
08-20-2009, 01:49 PM
Paul, did they ever make such a small release as only 4 pieces? That sounds also strange?
The Deacon
08-20-2009, 02:10 PM
Yes it does. The absence of tang stamps seems odd as well. As does the absence of any obvious locking device. And yet, in spite of all that, Spyderco has done so many odd things that oddity, by itself, proves nothing.
Please do not misunderstand me, I am not saying I think it is real, only that I would be very hesitant to flat-out label it a fake and that an official opinion is needed.
LorenzoL
08-20-2009, 02:14 PM
It will be interesting to see how people react to this listing and if bidding really picks up...
rycen
08-20-2009, 02:50 PM
Maybe a version of the T Mag?
224477
08-21-2009, 02:30 AM
This one looks interesting, I would say thats a fake, however would like to hear the mysterious story behind. Taz, could you pls.?
Sam Vimes
08-21-2009, 06:09 AM
They've also, at least once, released knives "into the wild" marked as Spyderco Prototype...
http://paulberetta.com/images/knives3/ocelots_2.jpg
Paul,
which lock mechanism do the two proto Ocelots have? Not keen on the top version but the second floats my boat.:)
rycen
08-21-2009, 06:57 AM
I can tell you that the top has a comp lock.
I remember having a similair model on one of my earlier sites. I'll need to dig it up.
Either way, it should go back to Golden ...
Found it, it was called the Martial
redyps04
08-21-2009, 05:28 PM
http://paulberetta.com/images/knives3/ocelots_2.jpg
What exactly are those top two Ocelots and how did you get them? I've never seen or even heard of them.
The Deacon
08-21-2009, 06:11 PM
What exactly are those top two Ocelots and how did you get them? I've never seen or even heard of them.Prototypes. The one marked Spyderco Prototype is "official" and part of batch of them which were sold. I believe there are about 30 of them. The topmost one is, shall we say, unofficial and, as far as I know, one of a kind. Both are compression locks with nested liners and BG42 blades. IIRC, technically they're not Ocelots, they're Trak'rs, since that was the original name for the model.
tonydahose
08-21-2009, 06:40 PM
you keep surprising me with your lil "gems" Paul
LorenzoL
08-27-2009, 07:56 PM
BTW, that knife sold for 211$! I really think it is the knife Ted posted a picture of. The seller could have made it easier if he had showed the bolt action lock instead of cutting the picture at the pivot.
dialex
09-08-2009, 05:09 AM
I wish there was a picture with the other side of the knife so we could see the locking system. If there is sort of a sliding button on the handles, near the pivot, I could tell this is indeed the prototype of Spyderco's first MBC knife.
This particular lock I've been talking about was REKAT's proprietary Rolling Lock.
dialex
09-08-2009, 05:10 AM
He, he, Ted beat me to it... I should have read all those previous posts before posting...
http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39727&highlight=Martial
dialex
09-09-2009, 01:28 AM
Hi Sal. Thanks for the link. Instructive and enjoyable. :)
dragonram7
12-30-2009, 11:20 AM
I'd be in for the Martial.
Also, I'd be in for any sprint run of Eric's designs(eg: Dodo). Yojimbe(sp?), Monarch(perfect size). I finally found the Ayoob. If these don't happen, then the hit list for this year will be:
-Moran-Love this knife
-Anything from Fred Perrin
-Eric and Ed Schemp (sp?) are genius'. Carried Kris on duty non stop for 2-3 years. My sons wants it, so I'm saving it for one of them.
-Then I'll probably pick up James Keating's Chinook. I'm waiting to see if a new model with compression/stop lock/ball lock is coming out.
-anything in BG-42:put me down. Dream Knife: Military with BG-42 and one of the three locks from above. BG-42 is so expensive though. Hey a guy can dream.
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