Hannibal Rising Movie Opens

[JspyEDC]

Finally a movie based upon a book, and the screenplay is actually written by the author!!

SOOOOOOOOOOO glad I decided at the last minute to NOT take my 12-year-old son.

The "M" carving scene (which I didn't think would make the film) is unbelieveable. If you did the book and want to see it in pictures, go see the movie. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Irish Lager]

saw this movie on opening night. though i haven't read the book yet, i can assure you i will asap.
if you haven't seen it, check it out. definitely one of the best films of the year.
J

[TheKnifeCollector]

We saw the movie Saturday night. It was good.

[severedthumbs]

junk junk junk

[Agent Starling]

The "M" carving scene (which I didn't think would make the film) is unbelieveable. If you did the book and want to see it in pictures, go see the movie. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

it's my *favorite* scene, at least after the first viewing! :)

in honor of the film i bought a PE Tasman Salt, black handle, last week...:D :cool:

Starling

[severedthumbs]

In reducing Lecter to simply the victim of bad childhood experiences - the abused becomes the abuser, blah - he is robbed of whatever dramatic intrigue he previously enjoyed. In "The Silence of the Lambs" (the novel and its adaptation), Lecter even specifically SAYS he cannot be thus simplified.

[Hannibal Lecter]

Dear Friends,


In reducing Lecter to simply the victim of bad childhood experiences - the abused becomes the abuser, blah - he is robbed of whatever dramatic intrigue he previously enjoyed.

I don't think it makes Hannibal a victim particularly, nor do I think Harris wanted it to. :)

In fact, the movie and novel don't really explain away the sociopathic tendencies, but instead merely highlight some of the myriad influences that shaped them.

But then, what would I know... :p

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Hannibal

[severedthumbs]

The principles of the earlier, superior works are forgotten here, with the only possible explanation being that Harris and producer Dino De Laurentiis (who was not involved with "Lambs") wanted to buy new boats or something. "Hannibal Rising" probably did not intend to be a very literal interpretation of the banality of evil, but that's about all it achieves. How far the bite-y have fallen.

[JspyEDC]

Dear Friends,



I don't think it makes Hannibal a victim particularly, nor do I think Harris wanted it to. :)

In fact, the movie and novel don't really explain away the sociopathic tendencies, but instead merely highlight some of the myriad influences that shaped them.

But then, what would I know... :p

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Hannibal


Hannibal has the opportunity to extinguish his sociopathic tendencies when he is offered the tenderness and complete sexual totality of Murasaki. He choses otherwise. Given the same opportunity with Clarice, could he turn away from himself and his past for a life with the one he most desires?

And why did "Hannibal" the film, not let us see the relationship that ensued?

[Hannibal Lecter]

My Dear Friend,


And why did "Hannibal" the film, not let us see the relationship that ensued?

I can only postulate that it would be considered bad for the bottom line profits of the movie were the protagonist and antagonist to run away together happily. :D

FWIW - I HATED the ending to the movie "Hannibal".

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Hannibal

[The Deacon]

My Dear Friend,



I can only postulate that it would be considered bad for the bottom line profits of the movie were the protagonist and antagonist to run away together happily. :D

FWIW - I HATED the ending to the movie "Hannibal".

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HannibalI share that sentiment Hannibal, and also your opinion that Harris never portrays Hannibal as the product of nuture alone, but rather as a very complex mixture of nature and nurture. I suspect that is also the case in the "real world" for a large percentage of those who commit heinous crimes.

[JspyEDC]

My Dear Friend,



I can only postulate that it would be considered bad for the bottom line profits of the movie were the protagonist and antagonist to run away together happily. :D

FWIW - I HATED the ending to the movie "Hannibal".

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Hannibal


But the real question that emerges from your post.... Which is the protagonist... Hannibal or Clarice? ;)

[Hannibal Lecter]

My Dear Friend,


But the real question that emerges from your post.... Which is the protagonist... Hannibal or Clarice? ;)

ROTFLMAO! I don't EVEN want to answer that, as I guess it would depend entirely on your personal viewpoint! LOL!

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Hannibal

[Agent Starling]

Hannibal has the opportunity to extinguish his sociopathic tendencies when he is offered the tenderness and complete sexual totality of Murasaki. He choses otherwise. Given the same opportunity with Clarice, could he turn away from himself and his past for a life with the one he most desires?
All good things to those who wait! ;) Maybe the doc learned his lesson the first time, or maybe he evolved to the point of making better decisions later in his life...who can say? :rolleyes: Maybe even the good doc gets lonely after a lifetime of solitude and running away from the long arm of the law...and found a kindred spirit in Clarice...so I find the book version more believable than the movie. :D

Also, my feeling is that the young Hannibal still had a lot of unfinished business, i.e., he was not done exacting his revenge upon Mischa's perpetrators--this passion consumed him far more than love, methinks...of course this is all just speculation on my part!;) but in "Hannibal", there wasn't any indication of anyone left on his hit list (after Krendler), so it was time to see about that Starling girl...:)

The other thing that comes to mind is that Hannibal seemed to put his love for Mischa above that for any other woman. In the book version, he unsuccessfully tries to psychologically convert Starling into Mischa.

And why did "Hannibal" the film, not let us see the relationship that ensued?
My hope is that it sets the stage for a sequel, but that's probably just wishful thinking on my part...:D

Maybe one day Thomas Harris will write a book called, "The Psychoanalysis of Hannibal Lecter, MD" and tell us what this all *really* means...not!!!:eek:

Ex Special Agent Starling

[The Deacon]

Well, I waited for the DVD to come out, which has finally happened. Stopped at Wallyworld on the way home last night and picked it up. Popped it in as soon as I got dinner started. The movie, while a lot "truer" to the book than Hannibal was, does make some changes to the story that seem unnecessary distractions for anyone who read it. I'm not talking about the omissions and compressions necessary to fit a novel into a movie's time constraints, I'm taking changes that do not speed up the story. For example, his journey from Lituania to France. Seemed particularly odd since the book and the screenplay were supposedly written simultaneously.

But, issues like that aside, it's an excellent movie, and I'm glad I added it to my collection. :D

[Agent Starling]

cool, glad you posted that, reminded me I need to run out and buy a copy!:D

Starling

[JspyEDC]

Thanks for the remind guys! Got to stop by Best Buy on the way home to get my copy. Trying to decide if I should let me 13-yr old son watch. It would have messed me up at that age, but with both modern day video games and television/movie and news (read: real) violence so prevalent EVERYWHERE... it might look tame to him. Sad thought!

The story (and all the other book/films re: Hannibal ) is soo good, the violence to me is a character as opposed to what we're used to when we see gratuitous scene violence in so many movies. Europe was a rough place to be in the late 30's, and Young Hannibal becomes Hannibal as a direct result of his young life there.

Okay, I'm leaving work early.

[vampyrewolf]

Picked up my copy tuesday, watched wednesday after work... They actually didn't manage to kill this one.... I'm shocked :p

Would have been nice to have the full scene with Hannibal & Mischa, couldn't have been 5-10min longer if they had that childhood scene in the woods where everyone starves, yet would have added more on the character building for both sides.

Only real deviation I found was the last scene where he gets Grentz... book is montreal, movie is melville (can't get more isolated than that :p )...

[JspyEDC]

So I decided to let my 13-year-old son watch it with me Friday night. And very early in, he asks me if it were true what the butcher said about Japanese Lady Murasaki...

end of movie for 13-year-old.