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JD Spydo
05-23-2006, 09:04 AM
Coming back from a hellish work related visit to the wetlands of North Missouri I found out that not only am I not bullet proof I also found out that I am no longer poison Ivy proof either. Up until the last year or so I had never had any problem with poison Ivy. I used to routinely climb trees with huge poison ivy vines all through the tree with no ill effects.
But I either must have gotten into a meaner than normal batch of it or maybe it is because of the new, fresh spring growth may have had more toxicity than normal. But whatever the case it really got me this time. And I am very careful washing my clothes. I use Clorox 2 to break it down on the first washing and then I wash them twice with detergent to be sure I have eradicated it.
Do any of you have any suggestions for a poison Ivy cure :( ? This is about as miserable as a bad woman :D I have tried cleaning the area with Clorox soft scrub ( bleach flavored) and I have used rubbing alcohol but I am still in flea scratching misery. Before I head to the health food store to see if they have any herbal concoctions that may help I thought I would run this by my Spyderco brethren(sisteren) to see if there are any miracle cures I am not aware of. I have to go back next week too. OK I am all ears :rolleyes:
brainus
05-23-2006, 09:20 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burow%27s_solution
http://www.drgreene.org/body.cfm?id=21&action=detail&ref=559
Good luck, man, that's miserable.
smcfalls13
05-23-2006, 09:28 AM
I've got bad news for you JD, there's really not much you can do. ;)
I'm so viciously allergic to poison ivy and it's comrades that I can get it just from thinking about(I'm starting to itch right now ;) )
How bad is the reaction? Is it just little patches of red bumps, or is full blown oozing sections? Bathing in oatmeal works wonders for the itching, pack oatmeal(the regular kind, not Quaker Oats instant) in some panty hose, and drop it in the bath tub. Relieves the itching.
When you can't hang out in the tub all day, Calamine lotion, liberally applied, is going to be your best friend. You'll be walking around with pink all over you, but it helps. The biggest thing is to keep the rash area as dry as possible. Moisture seems to make it itch more.
You also may not have poison ivy, it could be poison oak or sumac(avoid sumac if at all possible, that stuff is worse than paying taxes :o )
I feel for you JD, good luck.
Woody
05-23-2006, 10:52 AM
Hey JD, I have nothing more than hang in there bro... I have been lucky over the years to not have tangled with that crap, we have plenty on out property and have been lucky over the years... However my wife has had some serious cases of it.... She had to go to the Doc and get steroid shots for it... I feel for ya Joe.....
Goldtanker
05-23-2006, 11:02 AM
I have had good luck with a product called ZANFEL. It is expensive but is available over the counter at the drug store and worked better than anything else I have ever tried.
http://www.zanfel.com/
J Smith
05-23-2006, 11:38 AM
I do not get posion ivy very bad but I do get posion oak VERY badly.I can get it just from being with in a few feet from a plant.
I have done this to get rid of it but only because it was so bad that the effects from it was better than the rash.Mixed a little quckcrete and put on the rash,let dry.This will pull out all the oil but it will also give a bad swore to the skin where it is applied because it also pulls all the oil out of your skin.
Hannibal Lecter
05-23-2006, 01:01 PM
My Friend,
Prednisone. Steroids in general. That is the ONLY way to shorten the affliction.
Trust me on this one...
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Hannibal
coffeeman
05-23-2006, 03:27 PM
Hey dude,
sorry to hear about your problem, my heart goes out to you.
I have never had it, but it kind of makes me feel like I saw someone get kicked in the b*lls :eek: .
Good luck.
Michael
Civilian
05-23-2006, 03:34 PM
Prednisone. Steroids in general.
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Hannibal
I agree here(not as much as Bonds though :p ), as I had it so bad once that I had to get the "jumpstart" shot and a 2 week presciption. By the second week I was eating like a horse and still hungry. Needless to say I avoid it like the plague now!
vampyrewolf
05-23-2006, 04:01 PM
aloe vera... I have a bottle here with solarcaine in too, works GREAT on everything from burns, to bites, to poison oak(my niece found a patch :eek: )
uhiforgot
05-23-2006, 04:07 PM
Oh brother... So far as a cure, I have none, and for this I am sorry :(
However I suggest that in the future you make a routine of taking a shower in Dawn dishwashing soap when you get home from such ventures (this, of course, in addition to your anti-poison-suchandsuch laundry ritual ;) )
Before a few select companies made a whole market out of "was the poison ivy off before it can get you" soap, there was Dawn dish soap. At one time it was even doctor reccomended! (not kidding :eek: ) The method to such madness is that any poison leaf plant is most harmful by way of the oil on the leaves, but why spend $10 on a 2oz. bottle of "magical" soap when you can spend $2 on a 10oz. bottle of Dish soap that will dissolve almost any grease known to man?
And it works!!! My dad has the same unGodly allergy to poison ivy and oak that Scott has (as per the doctor that reccomended this dish soap along with his perscription for antibiotics), and upon return from crawling around the river and all the poison-crud that goes with it, EVERYBODY takes a shower in Dawn and we haven't had a problem since!!!
Hope this is able to help in the future!
-Jeff
smcfalls13
05-23-2006, 04:16 PM
Hmm...that may be something to take note of next time I'm crawling around the leaves of three :p
spyderknut
05-23-2006, 08:33 PM
Joe, my yard and surrounding wooks are full of it. Ivy that is. Pets bring it in on their fur all the time. My wife is very sensitive so I end up treating it a lot. :o I am on a mission with herbicides.... :mad:
Oils are indeed the problem and just about any soap will prevent outbreaks for me. I just scrub down real well with soap when I know I have been in it. Dish soaps probably do very well as suggested above. Tecnu is a great product you can scrub with after exposure and works VERY well. Even if you start breaking out, scrubbing with Tecnu will keep it from spreading all over. I can get it at the corner pharmacy here. Here is a link to the maker if you can't find it: http://www.teclabsinc.com/sitemap.cfm I have ordered from them directly too.
The scary doctor is right. When you really have a bad outbreak, steroids are the best answer. Usually a short course of 5-7 days with 40-60 mg prednisone is sufficient. If you get into ivy frequently, it is useful to keep some on hand.
potterma
05-23-2006, 08:43 PM
Dawn.... Hmmm.... I'll have to try that one... I've found that Fels Naptha Soap works pretty good for both showering to remove the oils and for doing laundry (strong Fels solution with HOT water!)
I never got poison oak until I burned it in the brush pile one year... Got a mild case in the lungs... next exposure was a trip to the doctor for some prednisone. Watch the reaction. It CAN get severe... Severe enough that my leg swelled up to about 2X its normal size... :(
Believe it or not, acne meds like Clearasil or Clean & Clear actually do a good job for "spot removal" of the oils. That and a good abrasive wash cloth. At the first sign of those little puss filled pimples it works wonders... You want to be careful with any "abrasive" cures. Breaking the skin can open you up for a nasty infection, not related to the poison (oak, ivy, sumac)...
A friend of mine swears by single malt Scotch for the itching.... He says it doesn't really help the itch, but after half a bottle.... WHO CARES!!!! :D
psimonl
05-23-2006, 09:03 PM
Wow.. JD Spydo...
Poor you... It takes your knife and then give you that in return ?!?!?!?
I would say this is the last time you go over there. It is not worth it anymore!!!
Simon
uhiforgot
05-23-2006, 09:04 PM
A friend of mine swears by single malt Scotch for the itching.... For a second I thought you would say he pours it on the rash to which I would have replied entirely in four-letter words :o use BLENDED scotch for something like that ;) :D
He says it doesn't really help the itch, but after half a bottle.... WHO CARES!!!! :D
Excellent point!
-Jeff
zenheretic
05-23-2006, 10:22 PM
Not to rub it in...but in Montana no such plant afflictions occur. While rolling about in the leaves one only has to watch out for Moose, rattlesnakes, and bears in that order. ;)
knightrider
05-23-2006, 10:25 PM
So what's wrong with a little poison ivy? Uma is something else...
But I hope you get over it quick, I've had mild cases before, not fun. Hang in there and don't itch. :)
Ms. Delica
05-31-2006, 09:06 PM
Another reason to worry about global warming: more and itchier poison ivy. The noxious vine grows faster and bigger as carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere rise, researchers reported on Monday (5/29/06). And a CO2 driven vine also produces more of its rash-causing chemical, urushiol, according to experiments in a forest where scientists increased carbon dioxide levels to those expected in 2050. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas that is considered a major contributor to global warming. Compared with poison ivy growth in usual atmospheric conditions, those exposed to the extra-high carbon dioxide grew about three times larger and produced more allergenic form of urushiol, scientists from Duke and Harvard University reported. There study appears in this week's Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
From the medical files of
Ms. Delica
smcfalls13
06-01-2006, 12:29 AM
Another reason to worry about global warming: more and itchier poison ivy. The noxious vine grows faster and bigger as carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere rise, researchers reported on Monday (5/29/06). And a CO2 driven vine also produces more of its rash-causing chemical, urushiol, according to experiments in a forest where scientists increased carbon dioxide levels to those expected in 2050. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas that is considered a major contributor to global warming. Compared with poison ivy growth in usual atmospheric conditions, those exposed to the extra-high carbon dioxide grew about three times larger and produced more allergenic form of urushiol, scientists from Duke and Harvard University reported. There study appears in this week's Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
From the medical files of
Ms. Delica
I have just have one thing to say...oh s*** :o
Ms. Delica
06-01-2006, 02:47 AM
I have just have one thing to say...oh s*** :o
I think Winston Churchill said it the best!
When you are going thru Hell, keep going.....amd watch out for the green shiny stuff!
Ms. Delica
smcfalls13
06-01-2006, 02:53 AM
I think Winston Churchill said it the best!
When you are going thru Hell, keep going.....amd watch out for the green shiny stuff!
Ms. Delica
And what makes it worse is I can't do anything about it. I'd love nothing more than to torch the stuff to ashes, but of course that's even worse for you. Can't hack it up, because I'll be scratching like crazy.
Stupid poison ivy. Haven't had it in years, but that only means I'm due for one heck of an outbreak. :o
Next time I go hiking or camping, I'm going in one of those white biohazard suits :p
Ms. Delica
06-01-2006, 03:10 AM
Bee suit may work the best if you have to be out in it. :D
That was good advice about OTC solarcaine, and aleo vera. You've got to keep that rash dry! Calamine is still one of the favorties out there. Though, if you are into experimenting,
a good scrub to help relieve the itch and the lidocaine (prescription), or using something from the "caine" family of meds (OTC or prescription), after the itch, will help the meds go deeper and keep the itch from coming back as quickly. Therefore giving it a chance to dry up and heal.
Ms. Delica
JD Spydo
06-01-2006, 05:17 AM
Bee suit may work the best if you have to be out in it. :D
That was good advice about OTC solarcaine, and aleo vera. You've got to keep that rash dry! Calamine is still one of the favorties out there. Though, if you are into experimenting,
a good scrub to help relieve the itch and the lidocaine (prescription), or using something from the "caine" family of meds (OTC or prescription), after the itch, will help the meds go deeper and keep the itch from coming back as quickly. Therefore giving it a chance to dry up and heal.
Ms. Delica
A cure has been found. It is called Calcium Bentonite Clay. The stuff really works.~~~~>> Gee Ms. Delica you sure seem to be very timely chiming in on these threads :rolleyes: . It's as though you have a sixth sense or something of that ilk :confused:
Hannibal Lecter
06-01-2006, 05:46 AM
My Dear J.D.:
Gee Ms. Delica you sure seem to be very timely chiming in on these threads :rolleyes: . It's as though you have a sixth sense or something of that ilk :confused:
I wouldn't exactly call it a sixth sense. You put out the call for a curative - she responded. What is eerie about that? :D
BTW - There are some products on the market that allege to keep you from contracting poison ivy when taken internally - they apparently contain some of the ingredients of the plant itself. I have heard numerous reports from individuals that these actually work in either immunizing you against the plant, or at least minimize the effects of exposure. Worth consideration and checking out.
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Hannibal
chinook
06-01-2006, 07:29 AM
A quite exhaustive source of info on the tri-leaf terror...
Poison Ivy, Oak, and Sumac Information Center (http://poisonivy.aesir.com/view/welcome.html)
I'd have to be pretty hard pressed to resort to this immunizarion routine. I certainly suggest you to consult a doctor before trying this one...
munch on a poison ivy leaf (http://www.wwmag.net/pivy.htm)
Ms. Delica
06-01-2006, 07:57 AM
Gee Ms. Delica you sure seem to be very timely chiming in on these threads :rolleyes: . It's as though you have a sixth sense or something of that ilk :confused:
Yep, I am pyschic....and have all my senses :) ;)
Ms. Delica
JD Spydo
06-01-2006, 08:02 AM
Gee Ms. Delica you sure seem to be very timely chiming in on these threads :rolleyes: . It's as though you have a sixth sense or something of that ilk :confused:
Yep, I am pyschic....and have all my senses :) ;)
Ms. Delica
I'm sure of that. I have no doubts what so ever. I even bet you have a customized Ouija board :rolleyes: I bet there is even a logo of Spydie on your Crystal Ball :D
Ms. Delica
06-01-2006, 11:04 PM
Whatever Works :cool:
Ms. Delica
JD Spydo
06-02-2006, 12:20 AM
Whatever Works :cool:
Ms. Delica
Hey that's my line :rolleyes: My signature that is :cool: Good to see you again Ms Delica. Your lurking about is timely and mystifying to say the least :eek: . And isn't funny that POISON IVY would be the topic that brought you to surface :rolleyes: But check the patent office next time :p
Ms. Delica
06-02-2006, 12:39 AM
I copied your by line on purpose sarcastically. :rolleyes:
Actually it was not the poison ivy, but the bad woman crack that made me jump in! :p :D
Though the info I found out proved quiet interesting to say the leastl
Ms. Delica
JD Spydo
06-02-2006, 01:26 AM
I copied your by line on purpose sarcastically. :rolleyes:
Actually it was not the poison ivy, but the bad woman crack that made me jump in! :p :D
Though the info I found out proved quiet interesting to say the leastl
Ms. Delica
Well Ms. Delica the "bad woman" crack wasn't referring to you or Janis Joplin :eek: ( both of you have a great singing voice :D ) . And I got hit by Poison Ivy not Hahn Ivy :rolleyes: . Oh by the way are you looking forward to the Superhawk? Or is the Tasman the apple of your eye?
I'll forgive the patent violation this time :rolleyes: But you must make amens by attending the BLADE Show. and don't forget to bring your Pink Cricket~~~Oh and what are your thoughts on a Pink Lady Tasman?
Ms. Delica
06-04-2006, 09:39 PM
Oh by the way are you looking forward to the Superhawk? Or is the Tasman the apple of your eye?
Just the Lil Temp :)
Ms. Delica
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