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CKE
11-15-2004, 11:38 AM
WOW...just as I was about to post how impressed with this Timberline Envoy I just got, I realized it fails the spine whack test. Worse yet...if I just thumb it open, it can be closed like a slipjoint. Yikes says me...never had a knife do that before. I like the knife(it was free) the handle is comfy and the blade is AUS-8 so a good user, but now, makes me think I like to have ten digits more than a user knife. It just engages on the tang, it is flush on the left side. I think a few HARD flick openings and it will wear in a bit. 420-J2 liners so not sure how good they are?? At least the blade is not 420-J2:)
At first it felt like a solid little folder, better than comparable CRKT folders I have had. Quite impressed overall and if the liner "sets" into place better this might become a beater and get a little pocket time. Nothing compared to my Spydies though:) Take Care all!!!!

Ray.Hood
11-15-2004, 12:21 PM
I've only had one go myself, was not pretty at all. I used to swear by liner locks, still like them. Have a lockback now, not as fast to open or close.
Seems stronger tho. Auto are a dif. story.Have owned four. Never had a failure. Depends on the laws whereever you are.

CKE
11-15-2004, 01:28 PM
I have a MT LCC/DA but it never sees the sunshine:) Very politically incorrect in Canada. I had to have an auto in my collection and it will never go anywhere. Just for me to admire in the wee hours of the morning:) Hope you are doing well there Ray:) Take Care!!!

Ray.Hood
11-15-2004, 02:59 PM
Life is cold and rainy here. My autos don't see the light of day anymore either.
still play w/ them anyway. Take care CKE. Ray

severedthumbs
11-15-2004, 03:06 PM
sounds like a poorly made knife.

CKE
11-15-2004, 03:28 PM
It is and it isn't. Aluminum scales, AUS-8 blade, very solid...just doesnot engage enough of the way over. Hard openings have not helped...might just dissassemble and try to tweak it a bit. Or leave it and just put it in the collection. Take Care!!!

The Deacon
11-15-2004, 05:56 PM
Well, if it's any consolation Craig, I attended the NY Custom Knife Show this past weekend, handled some beautiful custom liner locks, but a few of them, with prices over ten times the MSRP of the Envoy, behaved more like slip joints that locking folders.

fret
11-15-2004, 08:50 PM
The linerlocks I've had and have needed to "wear in" a bit before they worked correctly. When someone asks me why I am sitting there flicking my knife, I tell them I must do it to "wear it in" and besides it is fun to do anyways. At least for me it is.

DAYWALKER
11-16-2004, 04:14 AM
Yipes! :eek:
Be careful Craig! I had a Gerber EZ-Out fail the spine whack test on me...LITERALLY on me! LOL! Good thing I didn't know how to sharpen anything besides a pencil at the time! :D

Deac' my NY bro...are you serious about them Liner...er, "slip joints"?! Mahalo much again bro!

God bless guys! ;)

OutofGum
11-16-2004, 02:49 PM
How hard do you usually whack the spine during this test?