Mule Team handle hardware.
Mule Team handle hardware.
Since I picked up my Mule I realized that there was going to be a problem attaching scales to the blade. The holes drilled in the are all strange sizes and not standard at all. So I have been trying to come up with a solution. Here is what I came up with.
I personally prefer permentaly attaching the scales with pins, but I know some of you dont so here we go.
This is a standard 1/8" barrel pivot with screws. Avaiable at from most knife making supply stores. They cost $2-4 a peice depending on where you get them and if they are tempered. I prefer the tempered ones. I love these barrel pivots and wanted to use them. So what I did with lathe a small very thin walled sleeve that presses inside the blade that the pivot will as well press into. So when it all works out scales can be screwed to the blade. They are then removeable and can be switched between knives.
Here are some photos with Hunter Orange G-10 scales with a custom texture. Let me know what you all think. Shoot some ideas at me as well if you have a better solution cause those sleeves arnt easy to make.
I personally prefer permentaly attaching the scales with pins, but I know some of you dont so here we go.
This is a standard 1/8" barrel pivot with screws. Avaiable at from most knife making supply stores. They cost $2-4 a peice depending on where you get them and if they are tempered. I prefer the tempered ones. I love these barrel pivots and wanted to use them. So what I did with lathe a small very thin walled sleeve that presses inside the blade that the pivot will as well press into. So when it all works out scales can be screwed to the blade. They are then removeable and can be switched between knives.
Here are some photos with Hunter Orange G-10 scales with a custom texture. Let me know what you all think. Shoot some ideas at me as well if you have a better solution cause those sleeves arnt easy to make.
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SoCal Operator wrote: ...perhaps on the next Mule runs they can change the size?
I hope so. Or maybe just sell the hardware needed. The holes are made for the same hardware that assembles the Delica and the Endura. The problem is that this hardware seems to be custom made for Spyderco and isnt available anywhere else.
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Nice work, Brad. I do like that scale shape quite a bit. Seems like it would make the most sense for Spyderco to switch the size of the holes, since Spyderco will not be putting scales on these knives. Either that, or sell the right hardware along with the knives.
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Great work, Brad, very impressive.
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I was sure that I saw somewhere that Sal was going to drill the holes to fit standard Chicago Screws. Does anyone have a chicago screw they can measure?
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I just measured the holes in the tank. The small ones are 1/8th an the large ones are 3/8ths, I think. Are these Chicago screw sizes?
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I just measured the holes in the tank. The small ones are 1/8th an the large ones are 3/8ths, I think. Are these Chicago screw sizes?
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The cost of the kit is way more than most folks would want to pay for a few screws.dmrllgr wrote:Could you order the Spyderco parts kit for the Endura to get screws for attachment, if they are the same size? It would limit the width of the handle you could make though.
Finding the hardware seems to be the real trick. I am working on it, but have not had luck yet. Brad has an innovative work-around though. Hopefully we can identify the correct hardware and a source. It would be nice if future Mules used a more friendly hole diameter or if Spyderco made hardware available to us :spyder: knuts.
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Ahhhh come on now. Your an industrial design student. I bet you can figure it out. :Dquattrokid73 wrote:How Are You Making These Tricod!?!?!?!??!!
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PM me if you really want to know I would be glad to help you with the process.
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SeanH wrote:I was sure that I saw somewhere that Sal was going to drill the holes to fit standard Chicago Screws. Does anyone have a chicago screw they can measure?
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I just measured the holes in the tank. The small ones are 1/8th an the large ones are 3/8ths, I think. Are these Chicago screw sizes?
Unfortunately no. Chicago screws don’t fit. Although yes they do fit inside the holes, there is significant gaps that would cause an awful lot of play and slop in the handle.
1/8" = .125
Actually hole size on Mule = .164
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Beautiful orange scales, Brad, my compliments.
I think a possible alternative to your machined sleeves would be Acraglas Gel from Brownell's, a high-strength epoxy gunstock bedding compound. The kit comes with a release agent that is applied to anything you don't want epoxy stuck to, in this case the barrel (inside and out), barrel screws, and the scales. Assemble the barrels to one scale and insert through the blade. Mix the epoxy according to directions and apply a bit to the holes in the blade around the barrel, then assemble the remaning scale and screws to clamp everything in place.
For my mule, however, I share your preference for a permanent mount. I'll be using Acraglas and pins to lock everything up solid.
I think a possible alternative to your machined sleeves would be Acraglas Gel from Brownell's, a high-strength epoxy gunstock bedding compound. The kit comes with a release agent that is applied to anything you don't want epoxy stuck to, in this case the barrel (inside and out), barrel screws, and the scales. Assemble the barrels to one scale and insert through the blade. Mix the epoxy according to directions and apply a bit to the holes in the blade around the barrel, then assemble the remaning scale and screws to clamp everything in place.
For my mule, however, I share your preference for a permanent mount. I'll be using Acraglas and pins to lock everything up solid.
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For permanent handles I use press fit pins and as well epoxy the scales to the steel so that no water or whatever can steep in between the steel and the scale. As long as the steel is clean it will stick forever no problem. The pins as well need to be a tight fit.rcbalt2 wrote:Very nice. I'm planning on permanent handles.
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