Is it right to carry knives in church?
Is it right to carry knives in church?
I'm Catholic and go to church on Sundays. I'm actually an alter server. I usually take my knives out of my pockets and put them in my drawer before church. I'm not looking to get all into biblical philosophy and everything, just some yes's and no's. Do you think it's right to carry a knife in church?
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Yes.kbrouwer wrote:I'm Catholic and go to church on Sundays. I'm actually an alter server. I usually take my knives out of my pockets and put them in my drawer before church. I'm not looking to get all into biblical philosophy and everything, just some yes's and no's. Do you think it's right to carry a knife in church?
While not a catholic church, my next door neighbor is a minister and he always has a traditional case in his pocket. He often has a small revolver on him as well.
This should probably be in the Off-Topic forum.
I see no problem with it, honestly. I am Greek Orthodox and do not feel like I am violating any sacrament or other law of the church when I carry a knife in my slacks. I usually just carry a Vic Cadet (due to its slim size) but I have also carried a Sage on Sundays, too. I feel it comes down to how you view and use your knife. For me, my knives are a tool first and weapon only as a last resort.kbrouwer wrote:I'm Catholic and go to church on Sundays. I'm actually an alter server. I usually take my knives out of my pockets and put them in my drawer before church. I'm not looking to get all into biblical philosophy and everything, just some yes's and no's. Do you think it's right to carry a knife in church?
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This. What do you use your knife for? I carry mine in church, just as I carry a pen in church; they are both tools that I use frequently. I wouldn't carry a weapon in church, although I have more than a few friends who do (and they even have special, usually beautifully designed, guns that they only take to church or weddings!!).D1omedes wrote:I feel it comes down to how you view and use your knife. For me, my knives are a tool first and weapon only as a last resort.
So it's how you feel about having a weapon in a sanctified place, and whether or not you consider your knife a weapon.
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There is ONLY ONE reason that it would be wrong to carry a normal size pocket knife in most Christian churches in the United States. Depending on the typical lifestyle of the community some hunting knives are ok too. Of course this depends on why you go to church. The only reason I think it would be wrong is if there was a biblical scripture something like "It is wrong to carry a pocket knife during church survices". If the bible (God) doesn't say there is anything is wrong with it he probably doesn't care. I assume you are concerned with God's opinion and not other people. But, I'm sure you don't want to upset anyone by doing something so easily lived without.
There is a story in the new testament where I think Jesus "purged", "cleansed" all meats making it ok to eat the meats that were unlawful to eat by old testament laws. But, Paul (I think) goes on to say that even though Jesus cleansed the food, making it ok to eat it, if there is someone who doesn't know this and sees you eat some he will think you were sinning intentionally and you shouldn't do that. Your example is more important than the food. Therefore educate the guy, then eat the steak.
If you (anyone) hasn't noticed the bible seems to say a lot of things but then covers the subject with "but if's". That is why it's not a good idea to discuss this stuff on inet groups. It may start a digital holy war. :) I can enjoy these discussions but some get MAD if you don't agree with them. :)
There is a story in the new testament where I think Jesus "purged", "cleansed" all meats making it ok to eat the meats that were unlawful to eat by old testament laws. But, Paul (I think) goes on to say that even though Jesus cleansed the food, making it ok to eat it, if there is someone who doesn't know this and sees you eat some he will think you were sinning intentionally and you shouldn't do that. Your example is more important than the food. Therefore educate the guy, then eat the steak.
If you (anyone) hasn't noticed the bible seems to say a lot of things but then covers the subject with "but if's". That is why it's not a good idea to discuss this stuff on inet groups. It may start a digital holy war. :) I can enjoy these discussions but some get MAD if you don't agree with them. :)
Ever hear the phrase "Church-going knife"? Just like you dress up nicer for church, the same goes for your knife. Instead of carrying an Endura or Manix you swap them out for a fancy handled Kopa or maybe the Damascus Delica. While there are no rules stating what a Church-going knife is, I always took it to be a bit smaller & prettier to look at than your normal EDC knife.
Catholic here too, and as an Altar Boy in my younger days I always had an old Case or Schrade slipjoint in my pocket. As an adult now, married to a Methodist (Catholic-lite :) ) I have carried Spydercos, Kershaws, and various other knives when I do go to church.
Catholic here too, and as an Altar Boy in my younger days I always had an old Case or Schrade slipjoint in my pocket. As an adult now, married to a Methodist (Catholic-lite :) ) I have carried Spydercos, Kershaws, and various other knives when I do go to church.
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ive only been to church 3 times in my life (2 funerals and a baptist ceremony) so im not speaking by experience, but lots of people use the term "church knife" so i would assume it isnt a problem. Maybe if it bothers you, you shouldn't
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Some would say Luke 22:36 supports it.Blerv wrote:It depends on your church and who becomes offended. There isn't any scripture to support or refute it but that won't stop a zealot on a mission to make someone's life difficult.
I wouldn't bring it up much. The potential downfall FAR outweighs the chance of cutlery camaraderie.
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