magnacut gb2 salt

[ladybug93]

^^^^^^^ I've already been asking that, it's my biggest question surrounding this steel. Maybe they were just trying to really make a point with the Native, maybe it'll be the only full Salt model in this steel, we need something official.

yeah. i know that we were all surprised to see magnacut get a salt classification when the native was revealed and we've been asking the question ever since with no answer. i'm guessing spyderco won't use a steel classified as a salt steel outside of the salt series because of issues it would cause for them. and i know a few of us have mentioned wanting knives in magnacut whether they are considered salts or not. i guess we'll see what happens.

It's even bigger than just Spyderco if you think about it. This might be a stretch but there are a bunch of companies making MagnaCut knives now and any or all of them could get some kick back from users expecting them to be fully rust free "because Spyderco said so" etc etc. Of course it's not Spyderco's place to set standards in the industry and they certainly don't have any accountability for what other companies do but the cards have been revealed all the same, Spyderco have played a part in setting an expectation for the steel and the potential issue of selling it in non Salt models is already happening.

honestly though that's a problem for those other manufacturers. it's only spyderco's problem if they have a salt steel in a knife that's not classified as a salt knife and then it rusts. really that doesn't have to be a problem either, but you know it would bring some extra drama and irritation for them to deal with because people are generally awful.

[ladybug93]

i'm glad to see at least a few people think this is a good idea. i wasn't sure what kind of response i'd get for this one.

i'd love to hear more opinions.

[CLOK]

I would be all for a new GB knife and wouldn’t care if it’s considered a salt or not. The GB2 is a tank and while M4 has been perfectly fine for me, not having to worry about corrosion as much would also be nice. I’d be in for a GB3 or a new design of his.
Then again if he does another knife with Spyderco in M4 I would still buy it. I’d just view Magnacut as a bonus as my preferences lean to well rounded steels.

[rgc]

the gb2 has been catching my eye lately as a good all-around folder design. i'm wondering if anyone else would be interested in seeing a gb2 in a more salty configuration with titanium liners (with a steel lock interface like the brower) and clip, magnacut blade, and od micarta scales.

Um, yes please and thank you.

[bleasure]

I can't praise the GB2 enough; there is nothing about this knife less good, less reliable, less capable than the GB1 imo. On the other hand it looks and feels better in hand in large part because of the changes to the handle from 1 to 2, which are one of my favorite things about it. It's an incredibly comfortable, fairly neutral design. For this exact reason it seems like it'd be liable to squeak right out of your hand in a slippery/marine environment; I always think of salts as intended to be cemented in place in any grip, so in this case a GB1 style design might be a better bet with the much less neutral, choil'd handle, with texture added.

[anycal]

I really strongly dislike the sharpening notch (aka giant snag point) on the GB2, and the GB1 doesn't have it so that's really all I need but the GB1 is one I always went back and forth with buying but never did, and if they did a run in MagnaCut I'd cave.

Technically, there is no sharpening notch. The edge goes all the way to the ricasso.

With that logic, the GB1 has a snag point as well, just beyond the ricasso.

[Cowboyfromhell]

I would abstolutely buy a gb2 magnacut! I love my gb2 in M4.

[mikey177]

The Ti frame of the Brouwer is almost three times as thick as the liner of the GB2, so I don't know if a lockbar insert for the GB2 would be possible using its current dimensions.

Hopefully, the weak detent on the GB2 would be addressed if the model gets a new variant.

That aside, I would also be interested in a MagnaCut GB2 or even GB1.

[ladybug93]

The Ti frame of the Brouwer is almost three times as thick as the liner of the GB2, so I don't know if a lockbar insert for the GB2 would be possible using its current dimensions.

Hopefully, the weak detent on the GB2 would be addressed if the model gets a new variant.

That aside, I would also be interested in a MagnaCut GB2 or even GB1.

i didn't think about the thinner liners vs thicker frame of the brouwer. good point.

while i haven't felt the detent of the gb2, i really like the action of other taichung knives that get complaints over "weak" detents. i'm guessing i'd like the gb2 detent just fine if people think it's weak. one man's weak detent is another's smooth action.

[kennethsime]

I say yes to Magnacut, but couldn’t care less about the salt. I’d be extra stoked with some factory micarta scales.

[mikey177]

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while i haven't felt the detent of the gb2, i really like the action of other taichung knives that get complaints over "weak" detents. i'm guessing i'd like the gb2 detent just fine if people think it's weak. one man's weak detent is another's smooth action.

The Taichung liner locks that I have (GB2, Hundred Pacer, Bombshell) all have detents that are so weak that I can shake the knife open.

With the exception of the Stovepipe, my Taichung framelocks, on the other hand, have actions that are still smooth but which stay closed when shaken.

The Golden-made Military and the Italian Pattada, which are liner locks with long blades, have strong lockup but are likewise smooth.

I don't know if it's just a matter of Taichung needing to fine-tune the detent on their liner locks to make them more secure, as they seem to have their framelocks nicely dialed in.

[Evil D]

I really strongly dislike the sharpening notch (aka giant snag point) on the GB2, and the GB1 doesn't have it so that's really all I need but the GB1 is one I always went back and forth with buying but never did, and if they did a run in MagnaCut I'd cave.

Technically, there is no sharpening notch. The edge goes all the way to the ricasso.

With that logic, the GB1 has a snag point as well, just beyond the ricasso.

Well whatever you want to call this area here where material finds it's way into. I don't want any dead space between my edge and my grip. At least on the GB1 my finger is on a choil right next to the edge and that helps to keep material forward into the edge. I would just assume the GB1 didn't have a choil at all and was more like a Caribbean, and that's how I circled around to not buying one in the first place, because there was always a better design for me.

[Matus]

GB1 and GB2 are both fantastic knives. I, sadly, don't own either anymore as some details of the handle ergonomics did not work for me. v

If would consider making a Salt-ish knife, then the only thing that would make sense is to come up with a new design, as I assume so many changes to the GB1 or GB2 would be necessary, that it would be a new knife anyhow. I would also prefer if the design would be closer to GB1 rather than GB2, but that is not quire relevant at this stage of wishful thinking.

Would I be interested in such a GB3? Absolutely.

[horzuff]

I really strongly dislike the sharpening notch (aka giant snag point) on the GB2, and the GB1 doesn't have it so that's really all I need but the GB1 is one I always went back and forth with buying but never did, and if they did a run in MagnaCut I'd cave.

What is a flaw to You is probably an advantage to many others . I strongly dislike knives without a sharpening notch and introduce one myself to any that lack it :D. Different strokes for different folks.

Regardless, I'd love it if there was a GB2 sprint/new version. MagnaCut/S90V+FatCarbon maybe?

[Wartstein]

How about a GB3 with MC and a different lock, assuming GB is open to any of that?

Never tried a GB so far, but always wanted to and evevtually will.

Tbh though , one of the main reasons I am all for Ladybugs idea is that I'd generally like to see more mid- to high range liner- and framelock Spydies to choose from , so please no different lock for me!

[Evil D]

I really strongly dislike the sharpening notch (aka giant snag point) on the GB2, and the GB1 doesn't have it so that's really all I need but the GB1 is one I always went back and forth with buying but never did, and if they did a run in MagnaCut I'd cave.

What is a flaw to You is probably an advantage to many others . I strongly dislike knives without a sharpening notch and introduce one myself to any that lack it :D. Different strokes for different folks.

Regardless, I'd love it if there was a GB2 sprint/new version. MagnaCut/S90V+FatCarbon maybe?

Yeah you seem to be right, many companies are making knives with this defect and it seems to be pretty popular. It's literally a safety liability in my uses. It does save me a ton of money though, for example I'll never own a Sebenza because of it (and a slew of other reasons).

[Wartstein]

I really

What is a flaw to You is probably an advantage to many others . I strongly dislike knives without a sharpening notch and introduce one myself to any that lack it :D. Different strokes for different folks.

Regardless, I'd love it if there was a GB2 sprint/new version. MagnaCut/S90V+FatCarbon maybe?

Yeah you seem to be right, many companies are making knives with this defect and it seems to be pretty popular. It's literally a safety liability in my uses. It does save me a ton of money though, for example I'll never own a Sebenza because of it (and a slew of other reasons).

Not the topic here and certainly discussed elsewhere multiple times already, but I still don't get sharpening notches... if a knife has none, well, the worst that could happen is that there is a short, unsharpened edge section exactly in the place where otherwise a notch (and snag point) would be... I know what I'd prefer...

[Wandering_About]

A GB2 with MagnaCut would be excellent. I do not want it to be a Salt. Just as it is with a stainless blade for a bit better all-weather friendly construction.

[ekastanis]

I really strongly dislike the sharpening notch (aka giant snag point) on the GB2

What is a flaw to You is probably an advantage to many others . I strongly dislike knives without a sharpening notch and introduce one myself to any that lack it :D. Different strokes for different folks.

Whatever notch the GB2 has, it doesn't make sharpening any easier. The grind thickens up due to a large radius at the plunge grind before you get to the notch. The plunge should be ground 2-3 mm more toward the pivot so the thickness of the grind at the heel doesn't jack the straight section of edge up off the stone while sharpening near the heel. I filed some material off from the notch side and sharpened all the way to the notch to mitigate this.

I'd be interested in a GB3 in Magnacut, and not necessarily a Salt.

[ladybug93]

ran across this gem today. i'm sure some of you have seen it already, but i hadn't yet, despite watching quite a few gb2 reviews around the time of posting this thread. anyway, i always love seeing designer intent.