No trauma care hospital can will turn down anyone insurance or not. I have an ER doctor as a close friend and plenty of immigrants bring their kids into the ER with no insurance and get treated every day day after day. They never turn people away in ER trauma centers this is a myth drummed up to promote sympathy. As for the Vet my father in law is a Vietnam vet dying of bone cancer they think from the stuff over there they take care of him at the VA hospital. I'm not heartless give help to those who truly need it. But the system is widely abused by many who would rather be lazy and not work. There will always be people who need help and we should never turn our backs on them. There will always be a heart breaking story of someone wronged or mistreated you can fight that to with laws charities and private organizations. But The current system is broke and there is no way it is financially viable no matter how much you want it to be.MichaelScott wrote:A single father brings his four year old daughter into the hospital. She is suffering from a high fever and delirium, obviously a serious infection. He has no medical insurance because his was canceled by his insurance company after paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in treatment and hospitalization costs for his wife who was later determined by the insurance company to have had a "pre-existing condition" which led to her illness. She died. He can't buy more because he is broke from paying off his wife's medical bills and supporting his daughter and her three siblings. So, too bad for the little girl. No money, no insurance, no help.
An older combat veteran, living on disability and ravaged by his psychological and physical injuries is living in a broken down trailer and trying to keep it together. His psychological issues keep him from being employed. He needs to eat regularly to stay healthy and applies for food stamps. But, hey, it's a 'give away' handout, so bug off old man. Get a job.
Life is complicated and complex and simple solutions usually are just that. Simple. And wrong.
Before national health care my insurance for a family of 4 was $1,462.00 every 2 months Blue Cross Blue shield. After the law $1,000.00 per month.
So I am forced to go on The exchange because I can't afford my insurance at the level I had with all the new things I have been forced to have. Or just have major medical and pay out of pocket for everything else. My wife has had some pretty serious health issues over the last 5 years and I was not willing to lose the level of coverage I had. I am self employed many of you have no idea what your insurance cost your employer. I mean really does my 7 year old daughter need maternity coverage? NO but she has it. My wife cant have anymore kids guess what she has maternity too. Here is the best part but they don't cover my daughter her seeing a therapist for anxiety which they used to. Thank you so much government.
So every month now I pay $691 dollars in premiums and the taxpayer pays $981 to Humana that's $1,672.00 every month how is that cheaper? Ya cheaper for me but not overall cheaper.
So last year I file my taxes and the feds owe me money. I get to the insurance part and I figure okay they have been paying a part of my insurance they will probably take some or all of my refund. Nope I get more money back.
LISTEN TO ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE NO MATTER HOW MUCH IT HELPS YOU IN THE SHORT TERM STOP THINKING JUST ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT CAN YOU GET! Even though I personally pay less than before the law I would go back to paying for it myself. Being able to choose the level and things I want covered and can afford. Originally I had no idea this is how this system would work but after being in it we are looking for alternatives. Our church is considering offering a Health insurance cooperative not funded by the government paid for and run by its members. It will not be nearly as convenient but it will be cheaper and I won't be a drain on the system.