That thing you're not suppose to do ....
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That thing you're not suppose to do ....
I did it. Completely disassembled my yojimbo 2 and matriarch 2. Got scales from cuscadi for yojimbo and wise men company for the matriarch. I know I voided my warranty by tearing everything apart. And tear apart is the accurate term. I didn't apply enough heat on the yojimbo hardware. That red locktite is a potent. I rounded the end of my torx and completely striped the hardware on the pivot.
I ordered the hardware for replacement. Not going to cook up a sob story of the dog eating my homework. I knew the risks and I gambled. I really hope the end results pay off once I get everything back together.
I ordered the hardware for replacement. Not going to cook up a sob story of the dog eating my homework. I knew the risks and I gambled. I really hope the end results pay off once I get everything back together.
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Been there and done that. With a Yo2 and PM2 stripped the **** out of some screws and lost some screws too. Ordered new screws and got them reassembled. Crazy how some people (not you) think it's spyderco's problem when they fug up their own knife.
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The good news is that disassembly no longer voids your warranty.
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Better news is, disassembly never did void the warranty.
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Use a proper fitting Wiha torx bit. The cheap stuff out there turns out to be more expensive when you factor in your time and trouble, stripped screws, possible ruin scales (becuase you had to get the screws out somehow), etc. I've only encountered the red loctite once. I used a modelers heat gun to get the hardware hot. I then used the Wiha bit in a small wratchet for leverage. Screw came right out with barely a fuss.
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Actually planned on picking up a wiha set today. Have a few things that came in from back order.There's a German tool supplier here in town. All my good tools are at work. Wera joker wrenches, and every size socket set standard and metric. A few screwdriver sets.bit sets. Lots of knipex pliers . But you are right. If I'm going to be handling stuff like this I need the right tool for the job. Thanks for the suggestion.on_the_edge wrote:Use a proper fitting Wiha torx bit. The cheap stuff out there turns out to be more expensive when you factor in your time and trouble, stripped screws, possible ruin scales (becuase you had to get the screws out somehow), etc. I've only encountered the red loctite once. I used a modelers heat gun to get the hardware hot. I then used the Wiha bit in a small wratchet for leverage. Screw came right out with barely a fuss.
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Can't remember the source, but I did read somewhere about disassembly voiding the warranty. Either way if I bummed something up I wouldn't peg it on the manufacture.jpm2 wrote:Better news is, disassembly never did void the warranty.
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The short story is that there was previously some miscommunication among management about the warranty policy, so we got conflicting info. Everyone is on the same page now, where disassembly doesn't void the warranty. Of course, any damage the end user might cause due to improper disassembly/reassembly is not covered.Midwest Diesel Tech wrote:Can't remember the source, but I did read somewhere about disassembly voiding the warranty. Either way if I bummed something up I wouldn't peg it on the manufacture.jpm2 wrote:Better news is, disassembly never did void the warranty.
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Disassembly does not, on its own, void the warranty. It didn't before, but the policy was unclear and many thought that disassembly would void the warranty without any further considerations.
Damage caused by the user during disassembly does void the warranty.
Damage caused by the user during disassembly does void the warranty.
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It's funny.......since I got Wiha torx drivers......I have not stripped one screw!!
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This bears repeating.dplafoll wrote:Disassembly does not, on its own, void the warranty. It didn't before, but the policy was unclear and many thought that disassembly would void the warranty without any further considerations.
Damage caused by the user during disassembly does void the warranty.
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Re: That thing you're not suppose to do ....
I don't see anything that voids the warranty except "Repairs to your knife performed by any source other than Spyderco Inc."
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I feel bad the hardware got mangled during disassembly.... But I know you'll get it all back together once you get your replacement parts. What I really want to see is Pictures of those sweet new scales on the Yo2 and the wise men ring on that Matriarch :D When you get it all sorted out of course.Midwest Diesel Tech wrote:I did it. Completely disassembled my yojimbo 2 and matriarch 2. Got scales from cuscadi for yojimbo and wise men company for the matriarch. I know I voided my warranty by tearing everything apart. And tear apart is the accurate term. I didn't apply enough heat on the yojimbo hardware. That red locktite is a potent. I rounded the end of my torx and completely striped the hardware on the pivot.
I ordered the hardware for replacement. Not going to cook up a sob story of the dog eating my homework. I knew the risks and I gambled. I really hope the end results pay off once I get everything back together.
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I was going to ask how to post images. The wise men brass scales came in the mail today. Waiting on the hardware and I can finish the yojimbo 2. I also ordered different color hardware to see what it would look like. When everything arrives I will snap some pics and post.ZrowsN1s wrote:I feel bad the hardware got mangled during disassembly.... But I know you'll get it all back together once you get your replacement parts. What I really want to see is Pictures of those sweet new scales on the Yo2 and the wise men ring on that Matriarch :D When you get it all sorted out of course.Midwest Diesel Tech wrote:I did it. Completely disassembled my yojimbo 2 and matriarch 2. Got scales from cuscadi for yojimbo and wise men company for the matriarch. I know I voided my warranty by tearing everything apart. And tear apart is the accurate term. I didn't apply enough heat on the yojimbo hardware. That red locktite is a potent. I rounded the end of my torx and completely striped the hardware on the pivot.
I ordered the hardware for replacement. Not going to cook up a sob story of the dog eating my homework. I knew the risks and I gambled. I really hope the end results pay off once I get everything back together.
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Your test image works. If you don't want to resize you can use a photo hosting site. I use this one https://postimages.org/Midwest Diesel Tech wrote:Test
After you upload your image to the hosting site they will give you some links to your pic. Copy the direct link address.
Then come back here to the forum, open the editor and click the insert image icon(the one next to insert url link) and paste the direct link address there. like this: [img]image link goes here[/img} If you have any problems or questions about images don't hesitate to ask, took me a few weeks to figure it out when I started posting here, but my fellow forum members helped me figure it out.
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jabba359 wrote:The short story is that there was previously some miscommunication among management about the warranty policy, so we got conflicting info. Everyone is on the same page now, where disassembly doesn't void the warranty. Of course, any damage the end user might cause due to improper disassembly/reassembly is not covered.Midwest Diesel Tech wrote:Can't remember the source, but I did read somewhere about disassembly voiding the warranty. Either way if I bummed something up I wouldn't peg it on the manufacture.jpm2 wrote:Better news is, disassembly never did void the warranty.
That's a very nice way to put it. It went on for years without spyderco correcting it and people were blasted for questioning it left and right and on several occasions were browbeaten by certain spyderco reps for saying otherwise. Then some good forum members made a stink about it and Sal set the record straight. A good thing he did, too. Some really good people were turning away from spyderco for allowing that misinformation to continue like it had been. It came down because people were getting bunk bearing washers and were being told by spyderco that the washers were fine and others decided to risk it and found issues themselves. Spyderco was basically backed into a corner and, imo, Sal made a very wise move and publicly addressed both issues and made a lot of people happy.
The reprimands by the spyderco reps for disassembling knives are quoted for posterity a couple of places. They were corrected and now spyderco has a much, much more reasonable public stance that's in line with their written warranty.
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"Spyderco’s warranty does not cover damage caused by abuse, misuse, loss, improper handling, alterations, accident, neglect, disassembly, or improper sharpening."jpm2 wrote:I don't see anything that voids the warranty except "Repairs to your knife performed by any source other than Spyderco Inc."
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I also would put Flickr out there for photo hosting. That's what I use when I post my "New Models Dropped" threads, because they give you 1TB of free storage, 3rd-party linking, and you can resize the posted pic (but not the original) just by getting a different URL from the share widget.ZrowsN1s wrote:Your test image works. If you don't want to resize you can use a photo hosting site. I use this one https://postimages.org/Midwest Diesel Tech wrote:Test
After you upload your image to the hosting site they will give you some links to your pic. Copy the direct link address.
Then come back here to the forum, open the editor and click the insert image icon(the one next to insert url link) and paste the direct link address there. like this: [img]image link goes here[/img} If you have any problems or questions about images don't hesitate to ask, took me a few weeks to figure it out when I started posting here, but my fellow forum members helped me figure it out.
Patrick LaFollette
Current: Dragonfly 2 ZDP-189, Chaparral 1, Techno 1, Delica 4 HAP-40, Dragonfly 2 HAP-40, Mantra 1, Ladybug Salt Hawkbill, Nirvana CPM, Endura 4 HAP-40, Sage 4, Para Military 2 CPM Cru-Wear, Sage 5, Caly3 HAP40, Sliverax, Lil' Nilakka, Chaparral Raffir Noble, Zulu, Manbug HAP40, Meerkat HAP40, Sage 1/Sage 2/Sage 3 CF, Introvert, Techno 2
Current: Dragonfly 2 ZDP-189, Chaparral 1, Techno 1, Delica 4 HAP-40, Dragonfly 2 HAP-40, Mantra 1, Ladybug Salt Hawkbill, Nirvana CPM, Endura 4 HAP-40, Sage 4, Para Military 2 CPM Cru-Wear, Sage 5, Caly3 HAP40, Sliverax, Lil' Nilakka, Chaparral Raffir Noble, Zulu, Manbug HAP40, Meerkat HAP40, Sage 1/Sage 2/Sage 3 CF, Introvert, Techno 2
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I guess there's still confusion.dplafoll wrote:"Spyderco’s warranty does not cover damage caused by abuse, misuse, loss, improper handling, alterations, accident, neglect, disassembly, or improper sharpening."jpm2 wrote:I don't see anything that voids the warranty except "Repairs to your knife performed by any source other than Spyderco Inc."
Big difference in what voids a warranty vs what's not covered.