dreadpirate wrote:
Looks like I am really not the only one that feels that way. I think you can consider the lock back version a totally different knife. Just like the Shaman is not a Native 5, in my opinion, the lock back is to me not really a Manix 2. Maybe a retro Manix, and that's ok. Not a Manix 2. FWIW.
I think it's more of a lightweight version of the original than anything else. I don't hate back locks but I'd be buying this one in spite of the lock and definitely not for it.
dreadpirate wrote:
Looks like I am really not the only one that feels that way. I think you can consider the lock back version a totally different knife. Just like the Shaman is not a Native 5, in my opinion, the lock back is to me not really a Manix 2. Maybe a retro Manix, and that's ok. Not a Manix 2. FWIW.
I think it's more of a lightweight version of the original than anything else. I don't hate back locks but I'd be buying this one in spite of the lock and definitely not for it.
Hmm - I did not realize the back lock version is lighter. I admit that's a plus.
dreadpirate wrote:
Looks like I am really not the only one that feels that way. I think you can consider the lock back version a totally different knife. Just like the Shaman is not a Native 5, in my opinion, the lock back is to me not really a Manix 2. Maybe a retro Manix, and that's ok. Not a Manix 2. FWIW.
I think it's more of a lightweight version of the original than anything else. I don't hate back locks but I'd be buying this one in spite of the lock and definitely not for it.
Hmm - I did not realize the back lock version is lighter. I admit that's a plus.
D is talking about the very first Manix produced, the original was a back lock, the BBL came later. :)
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dreadpirate wrote:
Looks like I am really not the only one that feels that way. I think you can consider the lock back version a totally different knife. Just like the Shaman is not a Native 5, in my opinion, the lock back is to me not really a Manix 2. Maybe a retro Manix, and that's ok. Not a Manix 2. FWIW.
I think it's more of a lightweight version of the original than anything else. I don't hate back locks but I'd be buying this one in spite of the lock and definitely not for it.
Hmm - I did not realize the back lock version is lighter. I admit that's a plus.
At 4.45oz, the new backlock is way lighter than the original small backlock 83mm Manix (5.5oz) and quite a bit lighter than the non-skeletonized original Manix2 (5.1oz), but it's a little heavier than the skeletonized Manix2 sprints and exclusives (~4.15-4.25oz), pretty much negligible.
I still don't own the the new backlock M2, but I was a little turned off when I saw that it was not lighter than the sprints, but now, darned if I haven't waffled and started liking the heavier non-skeletonized M2's again. I like the feel of the heft and balance in hand, which is more toward the middle of your hand -- not so blade heavy. I never wear flimsy dress pants anyway, so I'm not concerned about a bit more weight in pocket, and now I'm just as glad that the new backlock is a hair heavier than the sprints. I think 4.45oz is a pretty good all around weight for a fairly heavy duty knife like the Manix.
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Another vote for an XL version. My Manix XL is basically the only knife the sees pocket time outside of my Salts. Love the handle, blade shape etc., but prefer the backlock for a stronger self close. Also it seems this version does without the texturing along the top and bottom of the handle, which I never warmed up to.
I'd buy a couple. C95's are a PITA to track down, and lighter is always better.
Popsickle wrote:Any chance we will see an XL manix 2 back lock? I carry the manix 2 back lock more than any other knife I own
With the thicker blade also please, and in s110v, Cru-Wear, or Maxamet, and I will buy one.
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Just got mine yesterday. I'm surprised by how much i like this thing! I never was a fan of the CBBL Manix 2 because of the lock, but this one is awesome.
Yes, it is awesome. It easily became my favorite larger knife. I carry it everyday at some point.
There are a lot of us hoping for an XL version, now. I love the design of the current XL, but I do not like the lock, very much. The back lock, and the new scale design, would make it the perfect large folder. I might actually sell off a few of my non-Spydies and buy more than one.
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Vivi wrote:Another vote for an XL version. My Manix XL is basically the only knife the sees pocket time outside of my Salts. Love the handle, blade shape etc., but prefer the backlock for a stronger self close. Also it seems this version does without the texturing along the top and bottom of the handle, which I never warmed up to.
I'd buy a couple. C95's are a PITA to track down, and lighter is always better.
I have a C95 and really like it. It was used so much I had to get it reground a couple years ago due to how thick the Edge was getting. I'd certainly be interested in a backlock Manix XL to bring that form factor and lock back in a lighter weight package.
Might be interested in a Manix XL backlock but mainly hoping for a LW backlock since at the moment my Manix BL is still seeing a lot of competition from my Stretch 2, weight being the main issue. (and the Stretch 2 is a great blade in general)
Me too. I would love to see a LW back lock version. I am actually hoping for a LW and an XL, both.
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Joris Mo wrote:Might be interested in a Manix XL backlock but mainly hoping for a LW backlock since at the moment my Manix BL is still seeing a lot of competition from my Stretch 2, weight being the main issue. (and the Stretch 2 is a great blade in general)
Thought about you and your off-the-grid friends when they had those horrific dry lightening fires in the mountains of north Portugal last week.
Sixty-two killed while trying to escape. Hope we can assume no one you know was involved.
(not off-topic since you were planning to use your BL Manix somewhere like that :eek: )
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Joris Mo wrote:Might be interested in a Manix XL backlock but mainly hoping for a LW backlock since at the moment my Manix BL is still seeing a lot of competition from my Stretch 2, weight being the main issue. (and the Stretch 2 is a great blade in general)
Thought about you and your off-the-grid friends when they had those horrific dry lightening fires in the mountains of north Portugal last week.
Sixty-two killed while trying to escape. Hope we can assume no one you know was involved.
(not off-topic since you were planning to use your BL Manix somewhere like that :eek: )
Thanks, no luckily slightly different area. Terrible for those involved, big problem there in general. They should get rid of the eucalyptus and pine they're growing there, burns way too good..
This year I was in Spain trying out the Manix BL and the Stretch 2 they both did very well and I still carry them almost 50/50, great blades!
Also, an FRN or FRCP lightweight XL, whether BL or CBBL would certainly be interesting, though I think it would be a whole different animal from the old BL C95 and the current XL.
K-390 on hand: Mule Team 17, Police 4 G-10, Endela (burlap micarta), Endela backup, Endura (canvas micarta), Straight Stretch (now blade-swapped with G-10 Stretch), Delica Wharncliffe, Dragonfly Wharncliffe, & Dragonfly Wharncliffe shorty mod Note to self: Less is more.
Just ordered mine from kw. Shipped same day and should arrive Friday. I haven't carried a lockback since my buck 112 when I was a kid. I purchased a native 5 recently and the fit and finish is beautiful. I find that it winds up in my pocket most of the time lately and I love using it. My manix 2's are still my favorites and I'm so looking forward to, in my mind, a manix 2/native 5 hybrid.
I'm still not sold on being linerless however. It sounds like a lot of you don't like the M2 liners but I think they're great. The raised ridges feel great and I like the look of them. I like the look of liners in general as it gives a knife a more sturdy finished appearance. I don't think or care about weight when I'm buying a g10 scaled knife. I have a m2 LW for that. I'm sure I'll get over it once I'm holding it in my hands...
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