Stonewashed or treatment possible on Laminated Blade ?

[Nasgul]

Hello Spyderaddicts,

I have a question, as Superblue (420J1) and ZD189/420J2 used to scratch more than other, is it possible to stonewashed or other treatment on those laminated blades ?
And if it's possible, will the stonewashed/new finish will be on all the blade ?
Will it leave the line of the laminated ?

I'll be pleased to see your pics if it has already been done. :)

It's for my new Caly3 ; Thinking about his future :D

Cheers :spyder: :)

[Brock O Lee]

I did not do a stonewash, but here is a picture of my Superblue Stretch after I sharpened it on the full flat grind. It is now uniformly scratched, and the lamination line is now very even. The 420J1 does not show small scratches as easily anymore like it used to with the polished factory finish. I like the satin finish. It will be interesting to see a stonewash, I'm sure it will work.

[Cliff Stamp]

And if it's possible, will the stonewashed/new finish will be on all the blade ?
Will it leave the line of the laminated ?

Traditional clads just have a very soft steel as the clad, it will take a stone wash or any other finish, however in many cases it will have a slightly different look. The softer steel tends to deform vs be cut by abrasives and thus when you polish the entire blade you can note that the harder steel in the core gets very shiny but the soft clad can have a subdued finish. There are in fact specific Japanese stones which are designed to actually highlight this difference as many people really prefer a strong contrast which clearly shows the clad line .

[Nasgul]

It will be interesting to see a stonewash, I'm sure it will work.

Thank you for your reply Brock O Lee ! (Brocolis in French :D Funny "name" )

Again if somebody got one to show.It would be appreciated :)

Traditional clads just have a very soft steel as the clad, it will take a stone wash or any other finish, however in many cases it will have a slightly different look. The softer steel tends to deform vs be cut by abrasives and thus when you polish the entire blade you can note that the harder steel in the core gets very shiny but the soft clad can have a subdued finish. There are in fact specific Japanese stones which are designed to actually highlight this difference as many people really prefer a strong contrast which clearly shows the clad line .

Thank you for your reply Cliff Stamp !

[Jazz]

I did it to a couple ZDP 189 blades and it looks cool because the outside is softer than the core.

[Evil D]

I think about the only way you could achieve a similar finish and erase the line is if you media blasted the blade, I think if you used glass media it would gray out both metals pretty evenly. I've had engine parts of various metals blasted and they always come out the same shade regardless of metal type. Of course the issue is finding a place to have them done. I knew a guy who did it for a living so I had a hook up.

[Nasgul]

Thank you for the Pics Jazz !
It look nice ! I see it better and the 2nd and 3rd pics ! If you got some more, do not hesitate :D
You did the stonewashed by yourself ?
You also round the edge of the CF of your Caly ?

I think about the only way you could achieve a similar finish and erase the line is if you media blasted the blade, I think if you used glass media it would gray out both metals pretty evenly. I've had engine parts of various metals blasted and they always come out the same shade regardless of metal type. Of course the issue is finding a place to have them done. I knew a guy who did it for a living so I had a hook up.

Thank you for your answer Evil D !
I don't want to erase the line !
Yes, media blasted could be an idea, but it's a bit to gray. I think I prefer stonewashed. May be something darker than Jazz if possible.

[Nasgul]

I think I'm gonna soon sleep less idiot :D What the meaning of the symbol on the blade ? the "S" may be for Sal ?
Too much time I see it without having the answer :)

[farnorthdan]

I think I'm gonna soon sleep less idiot :D What the meaning of the symbol on the blade ? the "S" may be for Sal ?
Too much time I see it without having the answer :)

You correct, this is Sals signature, Eric also has his on some blades.

[Jazz]

Yes, I did it myself with smooth little river stones in a peanut butter container. Yes, I rounded the carbon fiber scales. They feel like customs and I love how the blades look. I did it to a 3 and 3.5.

[Nasgul]

Thanks for the signature confirmation farnorthdan I'll sleep less idiot.
So Caly 3 & 3.5 are Sal design !?


@Jazz, thanks again for your reply and informations !
Really nice your rounded fiber scales !
Spyderco :spyder: should also improve that part. :rolleyes:
Yes your Caly are really good looking, rounded scales help ! :)

[apollo]

Thanks for the signature confirmation farnorthdan I'll sleep less idiot.
So Caly 3 & 3.5 are Sal design !?

I believe if im not mistaken all calypso designs are from Sal.

[jackknifeh]

I stonewashed my Stretch SB/420J1 pretty soon after I got it. But I also have forced a patina on the exposed SB.




Jack

PS
I also found this picture of the spine after forcing the patina. I like the looks.

[Nasgul]

Thanks Apollo and Jack for your answer or pics ! :)