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by Sir Joe
Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:25 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Sharpmaker and trimming/topiary shears?
Replies: 2
Views: 716

Sharpmaker and trimming/topiary shears?

Hi guys. In the video about how to use the Sharpmaker it is said to use the side slot (12°?) to sharpen shears. That is quite a wide angle. But I see it works wonderfully for home shears aimed to cut paper. I start anyway having the impression that it may not be the right choice to sharpen garden sh...
by Sir Joe
Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:26 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: DO the rods on your SharpMaker move or do they fit tight?
Replies: 26
Views: 3302

Re: DO the rods on your SharpMaker move or do they fit tight?

Well, 192 positions is almost a kamasutra of sharpening. Not sure I need all of them. I would be happy with the typical missionary, rod in the hole, tight fit. Anyway, I do not understand how should I press "straight down". I am supposed to pull the knife toward me, to sharpen the whole bl...
by Sir Joe
Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:03 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: DO the rods on your SharpMaker move or do they fit tight?
Replies: 26
Views: 3302

DO the rods on your SharpMaker move or do they fit tight?

Hi guys, I have received the SharpMaker and started experimenting. I am pleased with the results, I was able to bring knives to cutting paper level, which for being a total beginner is a good result for me. I would not expect being already able to reach the popping hair level. But, I am having probl...
by Sir Joe
Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:25 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?
Replies: 69
Views: 23795

Re: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?

I hope I'm not steering away from the main subject matter too much I hope I did not! :) Sorry but it was impossible to resist hijacking this thread, having the chance to find somebody whom I can talk to, and understand, and who is willing to explain. Btw, thanks a lot Ryno for creating this thread :D
by Sir Joe
Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:10 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?
Replies: 69
Views: 23795

Re: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?

Cliff Stamp wrote:The opposite
Somehow I didn't see it coming. My mind was so stuck on push=high sharpness.
But it makes sense now.
Thanks for all this conversation, much appreciated, exactly what I hope to find in a forum :)
by Sir Joe
Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:29 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?
Replies: 69
Views: 23795

Re: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?

Thanks Cliff, it is clear now. Just a last question though :) When you say "The question was are simple steels better for push cutting and more complex steels for slicing, I noted this is true if you need/want high sharpness edge retention for push cutting and low sharpness edge retention for s...
by Sir Joe
Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:20 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?
Replies: 69
Views: 23795

Re: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?

Sharpness is talking about the properties of the apex itself. When you dull a knife by use you are not changing the angle. I am not sure exactly what you are asking here, what does the term sharpness mean? The question was are simple steels better for push cutting and more complex steels for slicin...
by Sir Joe
Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:04 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?
Replies: 69
Views: 23795

Re: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?

I think he means complex is higher carbides and simple is low carbide. What has been working well for me is my FFG ZDP Endura finished on DMT EEF stones. Yes I had understood that "high carbide" was referred to complex steels. I had to ask though, because I am not familiar with the term &...
by Sir Joe
Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:09 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?
Replies: 69
Views: 23795

Re: but, when is the UF rod (or generally a fine edge) needed, and when is a coarse edge needed?

as the steel gets higher in carbide volume the performance degrades. Roman Landes measured this specifically and called the measurement the apex stability which is the ability of a steel to hold a very high push cutting sharpness at very low apex angles. I may be misunderstanding something. So, sim...
by Sir Joe
Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:07 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?
Replies: 69
Views: 23795

Re: but, when is the UF rod (or generally a fine edge) needed, and when is a coarse edge needed?

In general, the more complex the steel, the less the utility of very fine high grit finishes Interesting again. From my very limited and fragmented "knowledge" I had the impression that old steels were not as good as modern complex steels at taking a very thin edge, and that a harder stee...
by Sir Joe
Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:54 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Edge retention comparison : Sharpmaker CBN, Diamond, Medium (+ steeled edge)
Replies: 36
Views: 10991

Re: Re:

The Diamond and CBN rods I have are near identical in grit. Maybe I did not understand something. You had said something about steeling, and I understood that a less coarse stone could do this steeling more (moving metal instead of biting). So when you said that CBN had a steeling effect and that a...
by Sir Joe
Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:25 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?
Replies: 69
Views: 23795

Re: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?

Cliff Stamp wrote:There is nothing stopping you from polishing one side of your F stones, or just using one side of your F stones until they wear smooth. Or using lubricant, or using low force, etc. to increase the polish.
Nice trick.
by Sir Joe
Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:20 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?
Replies: 69
Views: 23795

Re: but, when is the UF rod (or generally a fine edge) needed, and when is a coarse edge needed?

1) Lets say you get a new knife, the Spyderco Duper in S666V, you sharpen it at 15 dps with the UF stones and you do a little work with it pruning some vegetation. Now the knife goes dull rapidly, what is the cause? 2) I don't think you are likely to see any benefit from the fine rod, the materials...
by Sir Joe
Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:50 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?
Replies: 69
Views: 23795

Re: but, when is the UF rod (or generally a fine edge) needed, and when is a coarse edge needed?

A suggestion though is when using the UF stone try your best to maintain the exact (did he say EXACT? :) ) angle at the apex Ok, I agree with you, it is not something I want to try now. I definitely would overload my actual skills and feel frustrated. I will do step by step and eventually get to th...
by Sir Joe
Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:56 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?
Replies: 69
Views: 23795

Re: but, when is the UF rod (or generally a fine edge) needed, and when is a coarse edge needed?

There is no such thing as a pure slice because in all cutting the material has to move partially as a push or otherwise it would not actually cut into the material. - Yeah, good point. Maybe "slice" could be defined as a cut where you cannot BEGIN to cut if not by moving the edge forward/...
by Sir Joe
Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:33 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Edge retention comparison : Sharpmaker CBN, Diamond, Medium (+ steeled edge)
Replies: 36
Views: 10991

Re:

I checked this as I was curious and the CBN has the same steeling effect. If I just do 2 passes on the CBN rods the edge is very sharp, but at that point while it did remove metal it also pushed a lot of it back into place. does this mean that the cbn are less coarse than the diamond? I, like many ...
by Sir Joe
Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:19 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Are the Sharpmaker UF stones worth it?
Replies: 69
Views: 23795

but, when is the UF rod (or generally a fine edge) needed, and when is a coarse edge needed?

Hello guys, hello Chris (funny to see how people travels through different forums). This thread is very nice, it touches exactly the themes I am researching. I am new to knives and to sharpening. I have just ordered a Sharpmaker to sharpen my garden tools, the cheap knives I own, and the good ones I...